Question Regarding "SalvagedTimber" Seller

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Any jail, if called should tell if this person is in jail or not. They should be able to tell you if they were recently released. Last post here from "William" was yesterday, saying they were the son. The McKean Co. Jail number is:(814)887-5571. The Potter County State Police is: (814)274-8690. Don't sit in the dark and wonder, be sure.
 
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Yahoo Maps shows Port Allegany, Pennsylvania is in McKean County, not Potter County.
Who is cncrndprsn07? Please identify yourself.

I did email William about the spalted blanks he offered but asked for the pay after they arrive deal. I will post the results to that post when I get more information
 
I am another person who has had dealings with Mr. Fourness, and I am concerned by what I am reading. Hence cncrndprsn07.
 
This has all the hallmarks of why you don't trust anyone online that you don't know. Unless, you've gotten to know them and they have proven themselves.

It seems like SalvagedTimber has a lot of work to do, whether he is the son or the father. If he's willing to send the wood first and we pay for it after we get it that might not be to bad. I mean wood is wood. I might tell him to send me some wood on the see it before you buy it option. But, I would sure like to hear if someone asks for the see it first option and they never receive the wood or if the wood isn't as described or pictured.

ConcernedPerson07, Your really stirring the pot with a big stick. Not that that is bad, I find it somewhat interesting.

What a Soap Opera, but this one is worth watching.

By the way DocStram, I really like your style and got get it attitude. Your the Man.
 
I have to admit that I am extremely skeptical of the Fourness saga.

That being said, there may still be an explanation for the confusion. Our county jail recently went through a computer update and it got screwed up, There were several cases where prisoners were in jail for months an nobody knew they were there. Also maybe the guy is in a city jail rather than a county jail?? I think Mr. William Fourness needs to supply us with a little more information so we can verify his story to everyone's satisfaction.

Even given the post shipment payment option, I'm not sure I would feel comfortable providing these folks with my credit card number without more assurances that they are on the up and up.
 
Originally posted by les-smith
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By the way DocStram, I really like your style and got get it attitude. Your the Man.
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Sorry to hijack my own thread but, I can't resist!

Ummmm Les? Did you just propose? I'm 6 feet tall, weigh 220 pounds, and, I enjoy taking walks in the rain.[;)]
 
Not to stir the pot more but a web search for Fourness Jail Pa results in the following from 9/24/2003 - http://www.wfrm.net/wfrm_net%20Home%20Page_files/news%2009-03.htm

"Coudersport-based state police have charged 37 year old William Fourness of Coudersport and 34 year old Michael Hobson of Shinglehouse with simple trespass and criminal mischief for an incident taking place Tuesday afternoon on Deering Run Road in Summit Township. Authorities claim the pair cut down an eight inch cherry tree on property owned by James McGarvey and left the scene, with the intentions of going back later for the tree."

If you search you can probably find the current charges on the same site.
 
Originally posted by ericw95
<br />Not to stir the pot more but a web search for Fourness Jail Pa results in the following from 9/24/2003 - http://www.wfrm.net/wfrm_net%20Home%20Page_files/news%2009-03.htm

"Coudersport-based state police have charged 37 year old William Fourness of Coudersport and 34 year old Michael Hobson of Shinglehouse with simple trespass and criminal mischief for an incident taking place Tuesday afternoon on Deering Run Road in Summit Township. Authorities claim the pair cut down an eight inch cherry tree on property owned by James McGarvey and left the scene, with the intentions of going back later for the tree."

If you search you can probably find the current charges on the same site.
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Originally posted by Dario
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Originally posted by ericw95
<br />Not to stir the pot more but a web search for Fourness Jail Pa results in the following from 9/24/2003 - http://www.wfrm.net/wfrm_net%20Home%20Page_files/news%2009-03.htm

"Coudersport-based state police have charged 37 year old William Fourness of Coudersport and 34 year old Michael Hobson of Shinglehouse with simple trespass and criminal mischief for an incident taking place Tuesday afternoon on Deering Run Road in Summit Township. Authorities claim the pair cut down an eight inch cherry tree on property owned by James McGarvey and left the scene, with the intentions of going back later for the tree."

If you search you can probably find the current charges on the same site.
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2003? By now it should be dry enough to turn. [;)]
 
Try Google searching some of his names: salvagedtimber, pennzwoodz, Penn's Woods, cheryburls... you never know what you may find.[:D]
 
"Troopers have also charged 40 year old William Fourness of Port Allegany with harassment for a domestic violence incident allegedly taking place Monday evening. Authorities allege Fourness shoved his wife Beatrice Earle-Fourness during an argument in their home on the Coleman Mills Road in Roulette Township."

Same guy?
 
Originally posted by cncrndprsn07
<br />Try Google searching some of his names: salvagedtimber, pennzwoodz, Penn's Woods, cheryburls... you never know what you may find.[:D]
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Dear cncrndprsn07 ......
For being a member of IAP for less than one day, you certainly have a lot to say about the SalvagedTimber situation. All five of the posts that you have made are in this one specific thread. So, what's the deal?
 
As I stated before, I am a person who has had dealings with Mr. Fourness, and I am concerned by what I am reading. Hence cncrndprsn07
 
Originally posted by DocStram
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Originally posted by les-smith
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By the way DocStram, I really like your style and got get it attitude. Your the Man.
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Sorry to hijack my own thread but, I can't resist!

Ummmm Les? Did you just propose? I'm 6 feet tall, weigh 220 pounds, and, I enjoy taking walks in the rain.[;)]
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Hey Doc, I'll meet you at the Harbour Freight. [;)][;)]
 
Originally posted by cncrndprsn07
<br />As I stated before, I am a person who has had dealings with Mr. Fourness, and I am concerned by what I am reading. Hence cncrndprsn07
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You know, hiding your identity makes me think you have something else to hide. I don't know anything about William Fourness and I know the same about you. If you want credibility, maybe you should take off your mask.
 
Originally posted by DCBluesman
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Originally posted by cncrndprsn07
<br />As I stated before, I am a person who has had dealings with Mr. Fourness, and I am concerned by what I am reading. Hence cncrndprsn07
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You know, hiding your identity makes me think you have something else to hide. I don't know anything about William Fourness and I know the same about you. If you want credibility, maybe you should take off your mask.
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The person in question have a reason to stay anonymous. Lets give him/her that. The provided info helped without any need to verify the identity of the source.
 
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Originally posted by cncrndprsn07
<br />As I stated before, I am a person who has had dealings with Mr. Fourness, and I am concerned by what I am reading. Hence cncrndprsn07
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If you do not want your identity in this thread, the least you could do is provide the information you wish us to find or at least a direct link to it so that we can make up our own minds if it is credible.
 
As I said, I have had dealings with Mr. Fourness. I cannot elaborate on an open forum the nature of these dealings. I did not come seeking credibility. I saw a lot of questions being asked. I cannot personally give those answers (in a public forum atmosphere.), which concerned me. So all I have done, is supply possible avenues for searching for some possibly useful information. The results of the searches are what need to be considered for credibility, not me.
 
William,

I never saw anything from cncrndprsn07 that can be considered as "shot" to anyone. All he/she did was give a phone number to call.
 
It should be obvious to all that "cncrndprsn07" is a member of the pencrafting community and most likely a current member of IAP under another screen name. The fact that he shows up as a new member just for this thread is too much of a co-incidence to be a co-incidence.

While having 2 accounts on IAP probably a violation of the board rules, the guy is certainly entitled to his anonymity if he wants it. About 95% of all IAP members are more or less anonymous and IAP rules do not require that members use real names or post verifiable bios before joining the board. If you don't think the guy is credible, don't pay any attention to his posts.

I, for one, think the guy has asked a legitimate question and pushed us in an interesting direction. Let's not get distracted from the core issue, here, which is whether or not we should be doing business with the Fourness family.
 
Originally posted by cncrndprsn07
<br />As I said, I have had dealings with Mr. Fourness. I cannot elaborate on an open forum the nature of these dealings. I did not come seeking credibility. I saw a lot of questions being asked. I cannot personally give those answers (in a public forum atmosphere.), which concerned me. So all I have done, is supply possible avenues for searching for some possibly useful information. The results of the searches are what need to be considered for credibility, not me.
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I was not questioning your credibility, only wanting to validate the information you propose. I apologize if it sounded different.

So far I've seen lots of problems reported by people, someone charged with domestic violence and someone charged with stealing wood. I personally don't need more info to stay away.
 
Well, y'all .... since I was the one who first put my suspicions about "SalvagedTimber" in writing ... and started this thread ..... I think it's time for me to put what may be my final thoughts in writing. So, at this point, here's where I stand on this whole thing.

1. I have no earthly way of knowing if "Son of SalvagedTimber" is actually "Salvaged Timber". And, I don't think it really matters anymore.

2. It troubles me that I have purchased pen blanks in the past, thru ebay, from a guy who has been charged with illegally cutting down trees that were not his.

3. I am even more troubled, and sickened, that this guy has been arrested for domesticate abuse. It turns my stomach when I hear about some low-life beating up on a woman.

We each have our own moral compass to abide by. Mine clearly tells me to pass when it comes to conducting any transactions with "SalvagedTimber".

And now for a personal message to SalvagedTimber .... if you're ever driving thru Middle Georgia. Be sure to look me up.
 
Originally posted by Randy_
<br />It should be obvious to all that "cncrndprsn07" is a member of the pencrafting community and most likely a current member of IAP under another screen name. The fact that he shows up as a new member just for this thread is too much of a co-incidence to be a co-incidence.

While having 2 accounts on IAP probably a violation of the board rules, the guy is certainly entitled to his anonymity if he wants it. About 95% of all IAP members are more or less anonymous and IAP rules do not require that members use real names or post verifiable bios before joining the board. If you don't think the guy is credible, don't pay any attention to his posts.

I, for one, think the guy has asked a legitimate question and pushed us in an interesting direction. Let's not get distracted from the core issue, here, which is whether or not we should be doing business with the Fourness family.
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Sorry Randy but I have to agree with Lou.

In court the accused has a right to face his accuser. Pity that right is ignored here.
 
Anonymous or not, he did provide credible resources.
By the way, Al, you told me to look you up if I were ever down your direction.... Should I be scared? [:D]
 
Originally posted by DocStram
<br />Well, y'all .... since I was the one who first put my suspicions about "SalvagedTimber" in writing ... and started this thread ..... I think it's time for me to put what may be my final thoughts in writing. So, at this point, here's where I stand on this whole thing.

1. I have no earthly way of knowing if "Son of SalvagedTimber" is actually "Salvaged Timber". And, I don't think it really matters anymore.

2. It troubles me that I have purchased pen blanks in the past, thru ebay, from a guy who has been charged with illegally cutting down trees that were not his.

3. I am even more troubled, and sickened, that this guy has been arrested for domesticate abuse. It turns my stomach when I hear about some low-life beating up on a woman.

We each have our own moral compass to abide by. Mine clearly tells me to pass when it comes to conducting any transactions with "SalvagedTimber".

And now for a personal message to SalvagedTimber .... if you're ever driving thru Middle Georgia. Be sure to look me up.
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Hey guys do you here that.................. That's the door shutting on SalvagedTimber's business here at the IAP.

What's a family? Answer: A group of people who take care of one another. This thread is great example of a group of people trying to help take care of one another.

This kind of thing is why I love the IAP, people helping to take care of people. I'm proud of you guys.

And Doc, you really impressed me.
 
Originally posted by Mudder
<br />Sorry Randy but I have to agree with Lou.

In court the accused has a right to face his accuser. Pity that right is ignored here.
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I will repeat for the Nth time...please read all posts of cncrndprsn07 and see if there is any accusation(s) made.

I see none.
 
I have accused No one of anything. I merely supplied numbers, name or links to public access information.
 
And another voice heard from;
As a consumer if I did business with a person who had questionable business practices I would not be trying to justify the motives of his company’s actions to remain as a customer. There are too many businesses out there that want my hard earned dollars. In doing business over the internet is (iffy) at best. I say let’s spend the time to praise the honest and hard working people that offer their products and services at a fair price and work for the benefit of their customers.
Thanks to all the honest suppliers out there. [:D][:D][:D]
 
les-smith, sarcasm is probably not the best vehicle to use in this discussion.

By the way, I'm not taking sides, I'm looking at evidence. And Dario is right - I did not see any accusations made by the anonymous poster.
 
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Originally posted by Mudder
<br />.....Sorry Randy but I have to agree with Lou.

In court the accused has a right to face his accuser. Pity that right is ignored here.
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No need to apologize for agreeing with Lou, Scott. There is room for both sides of the question here. I'm certainly not going to apologize for agreeing with Dario.

Since we are not in court, your second comment really doesn't require any response and I don't remember seeing any accusation being made anyway?? If you would like to repost the accusation that "cncrndprsn07" made, it would be appreciated as both Dario and I must have missed it??
 
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