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I would like to purchase the set of 3 as well. Please let me know when you want payment.

Thanks for coordinating,
Nick
 
Joe I`ve just noticed you have me listed twice, I am mark(at)penmaker (uk)whick you have listed as via email, and ligget (scotland)in the normal list.

Dont want 2 sets arriving, cheers!
 
Here is the email I'll send tonight

read note on nib-holder tap below

Penturners.org tap & die set


Closing the group buy today.

Before Monday/Tuesday, please email me:
- Are you in?
- for all 3 tap+die+tap ...or... just the tap+die?
- how to pay? (paypal? check? etc.?)

Pick your amount these #s include all costs
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Just the tap and die:
US? $183.95 (via paypal= $193.26)
Canada/Mexico? $188.35 (via paypal= $197.88)
Other? $190.35 (via paypal= $199.98)

want the extra (nib-holder) tap, too:
US? $191.58 (via paypal= $201.27)
Canada/Mexico? $195.98 (via paypal= $205.88)
Other? $197.98 (via paypal= $207.98)

Contact
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If you have any worries, need to connect with me, etc:
joe judge
email: joe@intrusion.org
cell: 339-927-7298

The thread is here:
http://www.penturners.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=34016


Details
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Thanks to Bruce (brobbins629), this has been initially tooled by e-taps.com and tested by a few folks.
So, this works ... the company is legitimate ... etc. See the kit-less pen exmaple posted.

The group buy is for a tap & die set that were created to match the El Grande (Churchill) pen kit.
There is an optional tap for threading the inside of a pen body for the nib holder.

This means ...
- you can thread the inside of a cap
- you can thread the outside of a pen body
- (optionally) you can thread the inside of a pen body to hold the nib holder

The relevant parts of the e-taps.com quote are:

M12.0x0.8Px2.4L triple start tap & die pair (+ 10mmx1mm plug tap)
... 12-23 pc = $128.00 tap + $65.00 die (+$7.63 tap)
... 24-49 pc = $112.30 tap + $59.60 die (+$7.63 tap)

... after order confirmation, its 4-5 weeks until shipped.
... then I carve the orders up and ship to you.

USPS shipping rates appear to be:
... US flate rate $4.60 + insurance $2.45
... Canada/Mexico $9.00 + insurance $2.45
... Other countries $11.00 + insurance $2.45


I have to recover any costs related to this (e-taps.com shipping & handling fees; paypal fees, shipping

fees + insurance to you).

NOTE:
If people drop out (and we drop below 24) then I'll have to ask for more $$ (approx $22?)
If I planned wrong (e.g., shipping or insurance) then I may need to ask for a few $$ more.

--joe
 
Thanks to all of you for comments, feedback, overwhelming response, and trust. I'm nervous as heck about the money, the logistics, etc and hoping we all end up happy with this.

I'll hit each penturners login name with a message ... starting tonight and through tomorrow morning. I'll actually close it when I finish emailing everyone.

If you want to jump the gun, then hit me with the info:
... in or out? tap+die or tap+die+tap? paypal or what?

I'm @ joe @ intrusion.org and will email my postal address, if you ask.

Firefyter-emt is the only "die only" purchaser
- I'll do the math quick and msg you.

-- joe
 
NOTE[/b] on extra tap

George, part of the 1st group that used the tap and die set, has emailed some updated info. You should know before you decide on that extra tap.

The M10.0mm x 1.0mm tap for the nib-holder isn't exactly perfect.
The threading is the closest folks have figured out through trial and error. It works enough with the plastic threads of the El Grande nib holder.

So, if you are purchasing the optional tap -- note that it may not be the correct threading. It may be close enough, though.

I'll refund the $7.63, if you've already paid and decide against it.

-- joe
 
Joe,

In that I am not sure if you have gotten your round of emails out or not, I just want to make sure that everything is straight. I realize that this deal will involve quite a few $$, and want to make sure I cover ALL of my share of your expenses.

As I understand your recent post, for all three pieces, my cost will be $201.27 (paid via PayPal). In that there will be a time delay, I could send you a check, but I imagine that the ease of PayPal would make things easier for you---don't have to deposit check, verify payment, etc). If the amount above is correct and you want PayPal, just let me know and I will process it. If, for any reason, you would prefer a check, pls send your snail.

Thanks for putting this together!!

Gene
Elgin, Illinois USA
 
Gene -
Everyone -

I'm OK with checks, etc. ... I'm a trusting soul.

If you are sending a check, then:
- still email me and tell me
- I'll send you my postal address
- I'll count you in when I place the order (early next week)
- I'll trust the check will clear, etc.

- If it doesn't, then I'll do normal things:
... try to resolve it with you
... if not, I've got an extra tap and die set (oh well, *shrug*)
... my wife will be mad at me for a while
(because the $$ and bank fees)
... I'll post on the forums saying you're a bum :)

-- joe
 
My wife calls me worse than that daily! lol:D

Joe I`m in for all 3 paid through PayPal, can you confirm money due before I send it.

207.98 = 3 items
11.00 = shipping
2.45 = insurance
-------
221.43 total in USD

If this is correct I will send you PayPal payment.:D
 
I tried to mamke it easy.

Those prices I posted are "all inclusive" --- I've already wrapped in the shipping & handling e-taps, shipping to you, insurance, everything. Then I did the non-paypal and paypal versions.

So --- the number should be the number.
I just emailed you Ligget.

-- joe
 
I've been sending a few email msgs ... and fixing a wrong-built lathe stand today.
So, I'm a little behind in the contact email.

I won't forget you -- I'm rescanning email, making lists, checking twice, and trying to not to make any mistakes or misses.
These are expensive items, so I want to make sure the numbers are right and everyone has a chance.

-- joe
 
Jeff -- email to you bounced (over quota)
I'll just post my postal address here ... which was my email to you:


Postsal address =
Joe Judge, 22 Townsend St, Waltham, MA 02453

Make sure you email me, so I know what you're ordering and $$ are coming:
i.e., Tap and Die? tap and die and tap? or just one of the pieces ?

-- joe
 
Messages and email send to all those below.
There are 34 in total ... so, even if some folks drop out, we should stay above 24 -- so the price stays the same.
Some have already paid. Some have told me to expect checks, money orders, etc.
I'll update status early next week + mid/late week (when I hope to place the order), and so on.

(yes, this means you can squeeze in after today :)

Contact list:

roned23
alamocdc
bjackman
bosipipes
Buzz
Chuck Key
Dan_F
DaveM
Geo in Winnipeg
gketell
igran7
JC_UAH
Jim in Oakville
jjudge
johncrane
jtate
kqwaugh
lane223
ldb2000
LEAP
ligget
Nickfff
PenWorks
pipeyeti
PR_Princess
RichW
rlharding
rojo22
scotian12
scubaman
sptfr43
Stevej72
Tanner
WriteRev
Ken Nelson (kallenshaan woods)
 
Originally posted by jjudge

.....The M10.0mm x 1.0mm tap for the nib-holder isn't exactly perfect. The threading is the closest folks have figured out through trial and error. It works enough with the plastic threads of the El Grande nib holder.....
Click to expand...

I'm not part of this buy.....was just reading thru it out of curiosity.

Joe: I'm wondering why you don't just mail off an El Grande section to the folks who are providing the dies and let them measure it up. Then you will know exactly what size tap you need and whether an M10x1 really is close enough? Seems like leaving it up to the "trial and error" of a few IAP members to get a size that is "close" is a little risky. If I were putting out $200 for a set of tools, I would want to be sure I was getting exactly</u> what I needed......not something that was just "close enough".
 
I just took a look at my Internet reference for metric threads and found the following sizes listed as standard 10mm threads.

M10
M10x1.25
M10x1.12
M10x1
M10x0.9
M10x0.75
M10x0.5

We don't know for sure that the El Grande section thread is a standard 10mm thread; but if we assume, for the moment, that it is, then perhaps the correct size is the M10x1.12 rather than the M10x1? And, of course, the other possibility is that the thread is a non-standard size.

Might be worth checking this out a little more carefully before finalizing the order?

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Randy, I happen to have the 10x1 tap being ordered. According to my pitch gauge and the El Grande sections I have it is practically dead nuts. So close in fact that there would be no noticable difference between it and the 10x1.12 that you suggest. If this were a close tolerance application it may matter but we are making pens here so in this case " close enough " is just that, close enough. And by the way, the tap in question is only $7.00. The $200.00 ones were taken from the actual El Grande parts sent to e-taps for measurement.
 
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