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jttheclockman

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Is anyone else having a problem with this site slow loading. I can not get this site to perform as usually it does. It loads very slow and any forum here does too. It is frustrating to say the lease. if I am the only one what can I do to check into this. No other site I go to on my computer is having the same problem. I zip around as usual. Thanks.
 
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Not right now but i regularly get DNS problems where penturners.org will not load at all due to it can't be found on the face of the internet as far as my ISP is concerned.
 
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Well I am going to have to step away for a few days or something until this corrects itself or doesn't. I can not deal with this. pages do not load, takes forever to load. I got a PM from someone that I can not open so forgive me. Hope it is not important. I will check back in in a few days and see if things get better. This just happened yesterday. I did nothing different and as I said no other site is giving me a problem. By the way I cleared history. I logged out and back in here. I cleared cookies. Same thing.
 
Nothing is working. Empty Cache, cookies, history, tried new browser. Have no problems on any other site. This is the first time like this here. I did not different than I always do. Many times here it does not even load the page. I waited for 10 minutes to get this far to see if any answers helped. I am back on Google Chrome. I maybe done here for ever. I can not operate like this.

I have an AOL account and now I have to sign in every time I open it. It use to go right to mail. Any sight that has the keep me signed in is now not working. I have to sig into all of them. Any help with that?? All this overnight.
 
John; If you have problems, the first thing to do is run an anti-virus scan of your PC. MalWareBytes is a good one and has a free option. It will tell you if you have a virus or other mal-ware. You will need the paid version to clean the offensive software from your machine.

One final option is to unplug (NOT turn off, UNPLUG) your Internet Router and your computer. Leave them off for about 20 minutes then plug them back in. Router first, wait 5 minutes, then computer.

I will send you a PM.

Techy-Dweeb: Web site names are kept on a set of internet servers called DNS. This is a cross reference that has the actual internet address of internet machines and their matching NAME. Whenever your machine asks to connect to say "penturners.org" the DNS server will send your machine the actual Internet Address like "192.168.1.10" (fake address). These machines routinely sync with each other sharing changes to the list. ISPs like AOL, Verizon, Comcast sometime have their own copies of the DNS list. If the list is wrong or corrupt it can take several days to correct itself.
 
Are you using any type of add and/or popup blocking software or plugin?

Just a note, I have several privacy apps in use and none seem to affect functionality here. The IAP is one of the least onerous sites around with only 1 ad and 2 cookies (after login).
  • Canvas Fingerprint Defender
  • Ghostery Cookie blocker
  • Adblocker
  • ALL 3rd party cookies blocked

Shopify sites, on the other hand, that use Shopify login instead of website login are really bad with dozens of cookies and other invasive trackers that are specifically stated to be shared with the world of online advertisers.

IAP is the only website that seems to have spells of 'not found' or DNS issues. My ISP requires their full control of the router and DNS servers being used.

www.penturners.org seems to be much quicker than
penturners.org

I never type WWW
 
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Well I unplugged everything today and took cables out of router and all Left for about 40 minutes. Plugged everything back in and nothing changed on this site. Still very slow loading. Some pages do not load before it times out. Some pages go blank as I am reading or typing in. I have no more answers. I guess I will have to avoid this site for some time. Not sure if Microsoft will ever fix it. Unless someone else has any ideas I am open to try. I will once again empty cookies, history and cache today and see what happens. Thanks everyone.
 
The internet is a very complex place these days, with proxies, edge networks, geographically diverse hosting (meaning one region could be down while another is fine), etc.

A few things people can try to see if there is some external issue (to their own computers), vs. some issue with their computer:

1. Try using a VPN for a short while. A VPN will change the IP address used to reach the internet, and potentially also your effective geographical location. If there is a regional issue, or if there is some kind of edge network issue (i.e. CloudFlare thinks your IP is a "bad actor"!!), then this could at the very least let you know if that's the case, and give you an option to get around the problem.

2a. Try an alternative DNS service. OpenDNS is one such option, there are others. You would have to do a bit of research (AI like Claude can help here) to understand where to put the DNS server IP addresses. This could get you around some localized issue with DNS servers (I think one person mentioned they had a problem like this with their ISP on a regular basis.)

2b. Try using "DNS over HTTPS" which is an alternative method to retrieve DNS information. (DNS, domain name service, is a foundational way things on the internet find other things by human-friendly names!) This may allow you to bypass standard DNS, and if that's the issue, your issues might go away. ALTERNATIVELY, check if you ARE already using DNS over HTTPS, and if so, try DSIABLING it to see if that fixes any issues.

A few things to try if the above still don't work, which might help if the issue IS local to your computer:

1. If you are not real computer savvy, but you've tried to do things to fix your problem that are outside of your comfort zone (and particularly if you have any issues with clicky things with tails), you may have inadvertently disabled caching for certain web sites. In most "chromium" based browsers (which, at this point, is pretty much all browsers EXCEPT Safari and Firefox!), you can try the following:
a. Right-click in a blank(ish) area of the page, and choose "Inspect Element"; Alternatively use the browser main menu, go to "Developer -> Developer Tools".
b. In this, which will usually appear as a panel to the right of the current page, near the top of this panel find the "Network" tab and click it.
c. In the row of buttons and controls just below the tabs, find "Disable cache". If it is Checked, then you want to UN-CHECK it!
d. Next to the "Disable cache" is a "simulated speed" option. It should say "No throttling", if it does NOT, then change it TO "No throttling"!!

2. Also clear all data for a problematic site (like penturners.org), so that the site is at a true "clean slate" state, and try logging in again.
a. Follow previous instructions to open developer tools.
b. Find the "Application" tab and click it.
c. In this area, find the "Clear site data" button. Next to it is an option to include third party cookies. Enable that! Below, check ALL of the options: Unregister Service Workers; Local and session storage; IndexedDB; Web SQL; Cookies; Cache storage. CLICK THE "Clear site data" BUTTON!
d. This WILL log you out of the site. You will need to log in again. This should, however, truly reset you back to "honest ground state" for the site again. If you have not followed step 1, do so before you reload the site!


These should help to get you past any browser-based issues on your local computer that might be slowing things down. If these do not help, then, there is some other more abstract or obscure issue and I can't help you further.
 
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