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jttheclockman said:
Boy I avoided this post and was doing quite well till I read this response and there is so much in there I feel is wrong that I still better stay away. Do they have a little smilie with one biting your tounge???? Ouch.
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I don't think that this would qualify as biting your tounge...more like a cheap shot.

At least I have been honest and exlpained my position. If you feel that there was "so much" wrong with my post, at least PM me with what you felt was wrong.

I have asked several questions, in both my posts, and yet to have seen anyone answer.
 
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My VERY BEST WORK is priceless! That is because when I make something TRUELY special, I give it as a gift to someone that is equally special to me. You would be surprised how much business I get because someone calls saying " I saw Christy's pen and it is wonderful can you make something equally wonderful for me?"

Price is never an object to those people and they take great pride in the design process. YOU GET WHAT YOUR PAY FOR----IF YOU ARE LUCKY!

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ROOKIETURNER said:
I don't think that this would qualify as biting your tounge...more like a cheap shot.

At least I have been honest and exlpained my position. If you feel that there was "so much" wrong with my post, at least PM me with what you felt was wrong.

I have asked several questions, in both my posts, and yet to have seen anyone answer.
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Yes, Free Market. You are already getting your way. Ford, GM, Chrysler cannot make a quality, competing product for the cost that the Japanese and now the Chinese are doing. Layoffs, closed plants, unemployment. No protectionism.
 
Jgrden said:
Yes, Free Market. You are already getting your way. Ford, GM, Chrysler cannot make a quality, competing product for the cost that the Japanese and now the Chinese are doing. Layoffs, closed plants, unemployment. No protectionism.
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Chinese? What cars do they make?

I don't see the problem? Back in the 70's American cars were crap. Bad mileage, fell apart, rusted out...the Japanese made a better product. It forced the US market to improve or get out. They did, and they survived. Ford's Escort was the bestselling car in the US. More escorts have been sold than any other car in the US. They even used the frame on the Ford Windstar minivan. One of Car and Drivers safest mini vans on the street when it was made. Free market worked. Protectionism only breeds laziness and entitlement. This is the problem with our entire country. We deserve! You owe! I am entitled!

If we had protected the US Auto market, what would have pushed it to better itself? Nothing! We would be stuck with crappy cars.

I thank you for proving my point.
 
From a business point of view, anything and any place is fair game. If the existing merchandise in a store is better than mine and I want the account I have to improve or forget it. If you treat it as a hobby, then you will either have to do the same or you could lose out on a place regardless of how long you have had a business relationship.

I make game calls, I have to play with the big boys, Burnham Brothers, Primos and the rest of them. If I want an account at a store I to have better merchandise and a reasonable cost or I lose out on a sale. I see no difference in selling my calls or a pens.
 
ROOKIETURNER said:
Chinese? What cars do they make?

I don't see the problem? Back in the 70's American cars were crap. Bad mileage, fell apart, rusted out...the Japanese made a better product. It forced the US market to improve or get out. They did, and they survived. Ford's Escort was the bestselling car in the US. More escorts have been sold than any other car in the US. They even used the frame on the Ford Windstar minivan. One of Car and Drivers safest mini vans on the street when it was made. Free market worked. Protectionism only breeds laziness and entitlement. This is the problem with our entire country. We deserve! You owe! I am entitled!

If we had protected the US Auto market, what would have pushed it to better itself? Nothing! We would be stuck with crappy cars.

I thank you for proving my point.
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Well you might be right. GM is putting out some pretty sharp cars and FORD has gone high tech without bail money. Perhaps all this suffering has gotten someone off their a$$. The new Camero and Challengers are nice to look at. Oh, it will be the Chinese, just wait. It is the Korean's competing for our market now days.
Since you aren't listening any longer, I can say what I want without retribution. heh, heh, :biggrin:
 
Just because something is legal does not make it ethical/moral/etc. There are lots of business practices out there that are perfectly legal, but I would not consider ethical/moral/gentlemanly/sportsmanlike/etc.
 
glycerine said:
Just because something is legal does not make it ethical/moral/etc. There are lots of business practices out there that are perfectly legal, but I would not consider ethical/moral/gentlemanly/sportsmanlike/etc.
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Consider the lack of moral conscience that corporations have. Profit is all they think about without regard to the human element. :mad:
 
The easiest way around this problem is to make a product that no one else makes . As long as you are making the same kits as everyone else then you will have problems like this .
When it comes to retail sales , wholesale too for that matter , competition helps the consumer (lower prices) and hurts the vendors (less profits) . Very few people give a ratsa$$ about fairplay anymore and will undercut anyones prices to make the sale .
 
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