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Rob,
I think it's good to get things in the open. With that being said, I personally do not get
into openly arguing. I have done it once or twice, and felt poorly afterwards.
It is simpler for me to either let it go, or take it to PM's.
This is a pretty clean board, and personal attacks really make for some heat and hard feelings since you can't really ever take words back.
People start choosing sides, and it just escalates. Where does it go, usually downhill.
So, I see the "no personal attacks" policy as a fair one in the interest of keeping a flow going.
Now, I'll give you this; some of these discussions are highly entertaining to sit back and read but do we really want to go there? I don't.:biggrin:

It's hard to sit still and be quiet sometimes, for sure. So you sure have a dilemna there. I hope you find your best solution.
 
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Lord we are gathered here today, the day of the great PITH off to lay this poor thread to rest, We beseech you in your infinite wisdom to forgive all the BS that has been strewn along the path of penturning, casting, and finishing. May you please see that this transgression is properly laid to rest and never more brought to light.
Your humble servant Bitshird!!!!

Can I get an Amen?????????
 
bitshird said:
Lord we are gathered here top day, the day of the great PITH off to lay this poor thread to rest, We beseech you in your infinite wisdom to forgive all the BS that has been strewn along the path of penturning, casting, and finishing. May you please see that this transgression is properly laid to rest and never more brought to light.
Your humble servant Bitshird!!!!

Can I get an Amen?????????
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Amen!
 
Thank you all for your input. I just guess I will live by the rule of nothing nice to say (personally), cuz if ya ask me what I think about your pen, I'm gonna tell ya what I think, say nothing at all. I vow not to criticize people, but ideas. I agree not to be a flamer...not that there is anything wrong with that. And I will refrain from posting anything from a PM.

Curtis, again I apologize for the oversight, it truly was not intentional to break the rules. I didn't sit here and say dang the rules I am going to post it. I truly meant no harm.

Thank you Johnny for your wisdom!

And Amen Bitshird!

 
bitshird said:
Lord we are gathered here today, the day of the great PITH off to lay this poor thread to rest, We beseech you in your infinite wisdom to forgive all the BS that has been strewn along the path of penturning, casting, and finishing. May you please see that this transgression is properly laid to rest and never more brought to light.
Your humble servant Bitshird!!!!

Can I get an Amen?????????
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AMEN!
 
I don't have any wine...:frown:

I just cracked open a Yuengling B&T. Does that count? :biggrin:
 
You can say that again:biggrin::wink:!quote=ThomJ;1063631]Confuscious say "Dead Horse get more tender the more you beat it"[/quote]
 
Wine? What church do you go to? Can we talk about religion just for long enough to let me hear about this wine stuff??:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:



All jokes aside, I was gonna post a big long post to this thread, talkin about flames, and why a little heat is a good thing, but i think i will take the advice of my elders (No offense) and be quiet!
 
Jump through the hoops as many things get deleted that in my opinion should not be.I have learned to keep quiet and jump through hoops,lol.I have seen down right prejudice against certain types of people that go without notice then i see petty stupid things erased.We must understand(me included) that it must be hard to run the site,and try to keep all happy.No perfect answer or we would have world peace.I just stay a contributing member and not worry about the politics(its life).My two cents not meant to insult anyone at all,Victor
 
Mark said:
I don't have any wine...:frown:

I just cracked open a Yuengling B&T. Does that count? :biggrin:
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You east coasters that brag about drinking your Yuengling make me sick. You've got some serious nerve.

What about those of us that can't get Yueng's? Like the poor people of Michigan.
Damn you.

Now if you'll excuse me, i'm going back to my Bell's Oberon.
 
ROOKIETURNER said:
), cuz if ya ask me what I think about your pen, I'm gonna tell ya what I think,


And Amen Bitshird!

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When I post a picture of a pen I made, I would much rather have honest evaluations, not this Nice pen Good Job crap, if some one sees something I don't then I'd like to know about it, if the Colors don't work with a casting I've done I'd like to know honest opinions about that too. Comments about my photography skills, SAVE your breath I know it sucks.

Mark said:
I don't have any wine...:frown:

I just cracked open a Yuengling B&T. Does that count? :biggrin:
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That'll do just take two sips and drop a quarter in the urinal!!

EBorraga said:
AMEN MY BROTHER!!!! Now where's the wine:)
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Sorry I just polished off the last of the Dago Red in a glass of 7Up I hope that wasn't seen as a slur or any thing perhaps I should have said Chianti.
 
GaryMGg said:
Honey, do these jeans make my butt look big? :eek:
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Gary, take my advice on this one, the proper answer to that question should never be, " I don't think the jeans make your butt look big, it does that all by itself.". She is now my ex-wife.:biggrin:
 
Ken only a "Wop" can use the term "Dago" and try as I might with your last name seems I can't even get you honerary membership



Sorry I just polished off the last of the Dago Red in a glass of 7Up I hope that wasn't seen as a slur or any thing perhaps I should have said Chianti.[/quote]
 
Hey I'm not trying to start things but if you like look up some old ear plug posts,and another that I can't remember what the post was about as I think it was one that went off on to something else.I think an old tattoo post was another i remember people saying things about this type of person that should have been deleted.Like I said not trying to start things just saying its the way it is unless your a mod.Victor


MesquiteMan said:
Victor, I would sure like to see examples of "down right prejudice against certain types of people".
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One would think that it would be pretty simple with regard to an IAP event.

If you don't have time, interest or the intestinal fortitude to participate then don't bother with the thread. Why in the world would you let anything like that get to you? My kids will jabber on and on, then suddenly stop and ask me what I thought or if I was listening. My standard response is, God gave me two ears, and in and an out. He just forgot to label them. So using this application, it is not the posts that get to you, you let you get to you.

Now I am gonna go unload a big pile of wood I just picked up from JohnnyCNC and start sorting it.
 
MLKWoodWorking said:
One would think that it would be pretty simple with regard to an IAP event.

If you don't have time, interest or the intestinal fortitude to participate then don't bother with the thread. Why in the world would you let anything like that get to you? My kids will jabber on and on, then suddenly stop and ask me what I thought or if I was listening. My standard response is, God gave me two ears, and in and an out. He just forgot to label them. So using this application, it is not the posts that get to you, you let you get to you.

Now I am gonna go unload a big pile of wood I just picked up from JohnnyCNC and start sorting it.
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SO,YOU are the one who got that wood!!! :beat-up::biggrin:
 
LandfillLumber said:
Like I said not trying to start things just saying its the way it is unless your a mod.Victor
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Still not clear on what you are saying, Victor. I AM a moderator and the only one currently. Are you saying that members are prejudiced towards other member or that I am prejudiced against other members in my capacity as moderator? Remember, I am the only moderator so when you say mods generically, you are talking about me. I am not trying to start anything either but if you feel that I am biased, then I want to know. You can PM me if you prefer.
 
Wow!

The arrogance and ignorance displayed in this thread is astounding.

I have a bottle or two of Plymouth Gin stashed away for the "dark times". Guess it's time to break it out.


Folks, It's a pen forum. It seems that some have forgotten this.
 
Gin N' Tonic said:
Wow!

The arrogance and ignorance displayed in this thread is astounding.

I have a bottle or two of Plymouth Gin stashed away for the "dark times". Guess it's time to break it out.


Folks, It's a pen forum. It seems that some have forgotten this.
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Then why post anything? If the arrogance and ignorance is so rampant, why stir the pot? Seems to me that you are displaying poor judgment by instigating with your post.

"Drink up Johnny, it's good for you!" (Not referring to you JohnnyCNC, it is a line from a really good movie with a twist. Should be "Smoke up Johnny, it's good for you!" but that didn't seem appropriate.)
 
One who is injured ought not to return the injury, for on no account can it be right to do an injustice; and it is not right to return an injury, or to do evil to any man, however much we have suffered from him.
Socrates
 
I really do not understand expending this much energy over naught.

Talk about making mountains out of molehills.

If you don't like a post or feel that something isn't quite right, notify Curtis or Jeff if need be. This insistent stirring of the pot is unreal. Makes me wonder what has transpired over the year I have been away.
 
glycerine said:
Have you seen how MANY threads and posts there are on this forum? Have you seen how FEW moderators we have?
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Do you understand WHY that is the case, after a few threads like this???

Whether we agree with every move Curtis makes or not, he has been a "steady hand" for several years. Many came before him and passed into the darkness---let's agree to disagree but accept the FACT that Curtis enforces the TOS and AUP the best he can. And, yes there is ALWAYS going to be SOME judgment, which is, YES--SUBJECTIVE!!!

So, live with it. It's Curtis' JOB, here!!!
 
Roger, do you think that I work full time for IAP? I am a volunteer who has a real job owning and running 3 different business to feed my family. Here is a time line of what transpired on the thread that you have such a heartburn over...

7/28 6:41 am Roger posts first reply to original poster--nothing negative
7/28 4:37 pm Original poster replies to Roger with a less than nice comment
7/28 4:54 pm Roger replies to original poster--nothing negative
7/28 4:57 pm Roger posts additional comment to original poster
7/28 4:59 pm Roger posts additional comment to original poster
7/28 5:11 pm Original poster replies to Roger with a less than civil post
7/28 11:54 pm Additional post was made from a different poster
7/29 11:15 am Thread deleted by myself.

Just to let you in on something...I worked all day out in the field on the 28th. I got home about 5:30 and took a look at IAP and the numerous reported posts message I received on this one. At 6:15 pm my mother called and and said something was really wrong with my dad and that I needed to come over right away. I literally dropped my mouse and ran out the door for the 1 mile drive to their house. I drove with my emergency hazzards and went WAY over the speed limit. I got to their home and my father had just had a grand mal seizure and was unresponsive. He was really hot and I knew he needed to go to the hospital right away. I called 911 and requested an ambulance since I did not think it was safe to take him in my vehicle. I stayed there until the ambulance came and then followed it to the ER. I stayed at the ER until he was admitted to ICU at around 2 am with severe pneumonia and real high fever. The next morning, I woke up late and did not even open IAP again until around 11:00 am and at that time, took care of the thread. So excuse me for not taking care of it sooner to meet your time frame.

As for the second thread started...the original poster posted his thread and part of his message was a copy and paste of the no polluting rule. This is not necessary so I deleted that portion of this original message. After he posted his message, there were 2 follow ups regarding the posting of the rule. Those were deleted since they no longer made sense with the original post edited. I then posted my message to remind folks that it was the classified and that polluting was not permitted.

Still not sure how you came up with me playing favorites to the original poster.
 
Very sorry to hear this Curtis.

MesquiteMan said:
Just to let you in on something...I worked all day out in the field on the 28th. I got home about 5:30 and took a look at IAP and the numerous reported posts message I received on this one. At 6:15 pm my mother called and and said something was really wrong with my dad and that I needed to come over right away. I literally dropped my mouse and ran out the door for the 1 mile drive to their house. I drove with my emergency hazzards and went WAY over the speed limit. I got to their home and my father had just had a grand mal seizure and was unresponsive. He was really hot and I knew he needed to go to the hospital right away. I called 911 and requested an ambulance since I did not think it was safe to take him in my vehicle. I stayed there until the ambulance came and then followed it to the ER. I stayed at the ER until he was admitted to ICU at around 2 am with severe pneumonia and real high fever. The next morning, I woke up late and did not even open IAP again until around 11:00 am and at that time, took care of the thread. So excuse me for not taking care of it sooner to meet your time frame.

As for the second thread started...the original poster posted his thread and part of his message was a copy and paste of the no polluting rule. This is not necessary so I deleted that portion of this original message. After he posted his message, there were 2 follow ups regarding the posting of the rule. Those were deleted since they no longer made sense with the original post edited. I then posted my message to remind folks that it was the classified and that polluting was not permitted.

Still not sure how you came up with me playing favorites to the original poster.
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ROOKIETURNER said:
Then why post anything? If the arrogance and ignorance is so rampant, why stir the pot? Seems to me that you are displaying poor judgment by instigating with your post.

"Drink up Johnny, it's good for you!" (Not referring to you JohnnyCNC, it is a line from a really good movie with a twist. Should be "Smoke up Johnny, it's good for you!" but that didn't seem appropriate.)
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It seems that when you post an opinion all is well but let someone post a differing opinion then it's stirring the pot and poor judgment.


I rest my case.

Have a nice day.:)
 
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Curtis,

It's a shame that you feel the need to have to explain the details of your personal life to people who apparently don't have one, other than to whine and complain about petty little things they don't like. You do a fantastic job and I thank you for doing it so well.
 
personaly I think this thread is out of hand, if one don't want to use this forum to learn and advance his skills at PEN TURNING (not debating) and to share ideas about our craft I think he should not log on here any more. some good people are being ran away from this forum because of this kind of stuff, come on let us act like the adults we are......... PLEASE
 
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Enough is enough! Is it not about time to let everyone get back to turning and less carping. Curtis has done the whole lot of us a great service. Curtis "THANK YOU"

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