RMB
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Good, that'll free up saddlebag space for wood to buy and trade!
NOR CAL Bubbasville MK II
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Good, that'll free up saddlebag space for wood to buy and trade!
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JayDevin
Member
hummm do I bring my Favorites or my favorite favorites???
3 or 4 Jeeesh gonna take me a while!
3 or 4 Jeeesh gonna take me a while!
RMB
Member
How about a "Starting a Business" demo? Thats got me even more perplexed than the CA finish!
gketell
Local Chapter Leader
We could certainly have a "round table" amongst all those who have successfully started a business. I'm not one of them. I'm still flying "under the radar", as it were.
GK
GK
JayDevin
Member
Dont forget to bring your favorite tools!
Dave_M
Member
Well my wife forgot she has on call duty for the hospital this weekend. Grrr! I guess that's strike three and I'm out.
gketell
Local Chapter Leader
Dave, I'm very sorry we will miss you this time around. I hope your knees heal well and we can see you next time!
GK
GK
angboy
Member
I have a few requests, since I won't be arriving til probably sometime between 11:30 and noon. First of all, save me some good wood to buy from someone! Don't do all of the trading and selling before I get there! Second, can the nice, handsome young men with fans to fan me be ready and waiting since by then it'll probably be hot when I arrive? 
But seriously, I am planning on being there, but since it's probably about a three hour drive, I won't be there at 9:30! I need my beauty sleep!
But seriously, I am planning on being there, but since it's probably about a three hour drive, I won't be there at 9:30! I need my beauty sleep!
RMB
Member
I have some scraps, edges of burl that I think would make some nice worthless wood blanks. Those things are really nice looking, but mostly the price has kept me from buying any yet. Is there anybody who makes worthlesswood blanks who might trade me a couple?
JayDevin
Member
ryan
I will have some for sale at a very special price.....dont worry!
I will have some for sale at a very special price.....dont worry!
wudwrkr
Member
It was a pleasure meeting all of you fellow penturners at the Nor Cal Bubbasville. Greg and Kim, Jay and Dave, you were great hosts! I learned a lot and spent too much (thanks Nolan!).
Thanks again and I certainly look forward to next time!
Thanks again and I certainly look forward to next time!
markgum
Member
What a super day. Thanks Greg for hosting. It was great meeting everyone; nice to put faces with names on these posts. I learned a lot and 'da boss' wants some of the rose petal acrylic pens. Told her to give me the money... [B)]. Thanks to all for sharing your tips and tricks.
[B)]. Thanks to all for sharing your tips and tricks.
JayDevin
Member
I am too tired to tell everyone how much fun I had! Meeting everyone and doing demos and baking in the sun and heat.
I will post more when I am not exhasted!!!!
Thanks to everyone YOU made a Great day!
I will post more when I am not exhasted!!!!
Thanks to everyone YOU made a Great day!
gketell
Local Chapter Leader
Just got home from the "second event" of the day. I wanted to thank everyone for coming and making it a great event!!! It was really nice putting faces to names and teaching/learning from all of you.
'nuff for tonight. I'm going to go crash. I'll post more tomorrow after we finish cleaning up.
GK
'nuff for tonight. I'm going to go crash. I'll post more tomorrow after we finish cleaning up.
GK
JayDevin
Member
A Request those of you who took pictures please post them I did not get a chance to get 1 shot off.....
thanks!!
thanks!!
gketell
Local Chapter Leader
Wow that was fun. Hectic. But wayyy fun.
We had 19 adults and 3.5 kids there plus "an appearance" by one more adult and child.
Attendees:
Greg (aka me, gketell) and my wife Kimberly and my two sons Ethan and Devin.
Jay (jaydevin)
Dave (ratto) with an appearance by his wife Lori and daughter Sara.
Nolan (N4631x) and his wife Jennifer and li'l Nolan.
Johnathan (johnathan)
Angela (angboy)
Bill (avbill)
Cindy (handyrn)
Mark (markgum)
Ryan (RMB) and his fiance Katy
Dave (wudwrkr) and his son Ronald
Barney (titan2?) and his wife Larue
Mike and Carol (owner's of Dublin Woodcraft)
Van
Despite the heat I think it is fair to say we had a great time. Here are some pictures that I took from the day. Sorry for the quality, they were true snapshots as I passed from one thing to do to the next. [)]
The "goodies swap" begins. We had some Australian Teak (soon to become my new lathe tool handles), holly, koa, purple heart, paduk, oak barrel staves (dyed with red wine) ((Yes, Cindy, I found the ones you hid under the table), plus a bunch more I'm forgetting:
The beginning of the "strut your stuff" table and the "for sale" tables:
Nolan's truck getting mobbed. I think everyone left very happy!!
Just before lunch Jay did his "worthless wood" demo and tutorial. At least six folks got to make their own WW blanks from Jay's interesting stock piles of components. I'm really interested to see the "Mushroom Blank" someone did.
Then we broke for lunch and hid inside in the air conditioning.
Then we went back outside and Nolan did a presentation on how to cut a burl to maximize the quality of your blanks. Everyone got a lot out of this since we had just raiding Nolan's truck of all his burls. Jay Really liked it because he swept up the "cut-offs" to make more WW blanks.
(If anyone can post picts of this I would appreciate it. My flash card crapped out on me an I recovered all the photos except the good ones of Nolan cutting).
Then Dave Ratto stepped up to do a tutorial on CA finishing.
Lastly we got all three lathes going and turned some pens for the troops. The first few are Ryan and Katy making their pen. This was Katy's first experience with the lathe.
Here is my son Ethan with his "Dad get away with the camera" smile:
Cindy and Dave Ratto also turned pens.
I want to send out special thanks to Mike and Carol Cunnigham of Woodcraft who loaned us the extra lathes and donated WC discount cards to the gathering.
And to Low_48 (Rich Coers) who donated one of his boxes of a zillion blanks for the swap. Great blanks and more than fair price if you are buying some!!
To everyone who brought food/snacks/drinks: Jay, Cindy, Ryan, and more that I can't remember (but the chocolates and tater salad was wonderful!), and someone who snuck in some sausages that I didn't find until this morning. Sorry!
To Jay for getting this all together.
And especially to my wife Kim who bailed us out cooking all the food inside when the BBQ died!!
Let's do it again (but not too soon)!
GK
We had 19 adults and 3.5 kids there plus "an appearance" by one more adult and child.
Attendees:
Greg (aka me, gketell) and my wife Kimberly and my two sons Ethan and Devin.
Jay (jaydevin)
Dave (ratto) with an appearance by his wife Lori and daughter Sara.
Nolan (N4631x) and his wife Jennifer and li'l Nolan.
Johnathan (johnathan)
Angela (angboy)
Bill (avbill)
Cindy (handyrn)
Mark (markgum)
Ryan (RMB) and his fiance Katy
Dave (wudwrkr) and his son Ronald
Barney (titan2?) and his wife Larue
Mike and Carol (owner's of Dublin Woodcraft)
Van
Despite the heat I think it is fair to say we had a great time. Here are some pictures that I took from the day. Sorry for the quality, they were true snapshots as I passed from one thing to do to the next. [
)]The "goodies swap" begins. We had some Australian Teak (soon to become my new lathe tool handles), holly, koa, purple heart, paduk, oak barrel staves (dyed with red wine) ((Yes, Cindy, I found the ones you hid under the table
), plus a bunch more I'm forgetting:The beginning of the "strut your stuff" table and the "for sale" tables:
Nolan's truck getting mobbed. I think everyone left very happy!!
Just before lunch Jay did his "worthless wood" demo and tutorial. At least six folks got to make their own WW blanks from Jay's interesting stock piles of components. I'm really interested to see the "Mushroom Blank" someone did.
Then we broke for lunch and hid inside in the air conditioning.
Then we went back outside and Nolan did a presentation on how to cut a burl to maximize the quality of your blanks. Everyone got a lot out of this since we had just raiding Nolan's truck of all his burls. Jay Really liked it because he swept up the "cut-offs" to make more WW blanks.
(If anyone can post picts of this I would appreciate it. My flash card crapped out on me an I recovered all the photos except the good ones of Nolan cutting).
Then Dave Ratto stepped up to do a tutorial on CA finishing.
Lastly we got all three lathes going and turned some pens for the troops. The first few are Ryan and Katy making their pen. This was Katy's first experience with the lathe.
Here is my son Ethan with his "Dad get away with the camera" smile:
Cindy and Dave Ratto also turned pens.
I want to send out special thanks to Mike and Carol Cunnigham of Woodcraft who loaned us the extra lathes and donated WC discount cards to the gathering.
And to Low_48 (Rich Coers) who donated one of his boxes of a zillion blanks for the swap. Great blanks and more than fair price if you are buying some!!
To everyone who brought food/snacks/drinks: Jay, Cindy, Ryan, and more that I can't remember (but the chocolates and tater salad was wonderful!), and someone who snuck in some sausages that I didn't find until this morning. Sorry!
To Jay for getting this all together.
And especially to my wife Kim who bailed us out cooking all the food inside when the BBQ died!!
Let's do it again (but not too soon)!
GK
JayDevin
Member
I want to add my thanks to the following people, who made the 2nd Nor Cal Bubbasville a super wonderful Day!
Greg and Kim Ketell, who again allowed us to invade their home for the event.
Mike And Carol Cunningham, Owners of the WoodCraft Dublin store who Donated many of the door prizes, the tee shirts, sandpaper, mug boss , The Discount coupons for the store and the Loan of the 2 extra Lathes.You guys get to the store, they have some great new stuff!
The Fast Cap Company for donating the CA Glue and Dust Masks.
Mrs Kay Koth ( My Mother in Law) for allowing me to gather Chamise burl and Manzanita from the Ranch.
Nolan Harris and Family for loading up the truck and allowing us to go into the Burl Frenzy! ( I know what Nolan has to go thru to do it and I really thank Him!)
All Of You , for making it such a Great Day! I had too Much fun and am looking forward to seeing you all soon.
All of you who made WW blanks I want Pictures of the completed pen!!!!
Greg and Kim Ketell, who again allowed us to invade their home for the event.
Mike And Carol Cunningham, Owners of the WoodCraft Dublin store who Donated many of the door prizes, the tee shirts, sandpaper, mug boss , The Discount coupons for the store and the Loan of the 2 extra Lathes.You guys get to the store, they have some great new stuff!
The Fast Cap Company for donating the CA Glue and Dust Masks.
Mrs Kay Koth ( My Mother in Law) for allowing me to gather Chamise burl and Manzanita from the Ranch.
Nolan Harris and Family for loading up the truck and allowing us to go into the Burl Frenzy! ( I know what Nolan has to go thru to do it and I really thank Him!)
All Of You , for making it such a Great Day! I had too Much fun and am looking forward to seeing you all soon.
All of you who made WW blanks I want Pictures of the completed pen!!!!
angboy
Member
Thanks so much to everyone! It was a great day, despite the heat. I didn't even really sweat... er... perspire (as we women do) too much. I was especially interested in seeing the CA demo and I'll be trying it out soon. I was emailing myself notes as I was asking all those questions about grits and such.
It was also great to put some faces with names and to meet people with a similar passion- not something I have the chance to do very often. Thanks so much to everyone that I got wood and blanks from (Nolan, Jay, Dave). Now I just have to motivate myself to go out to that hot shop and make something!
I'm attaching pix from what I took:
Not exactly sure why everyone was so interested in Jay's butt in this first picture, but it is interesting to look at, you have to admit... (the picture I mean![:I])
The CA/finishing demo:
This was the picture after the fisticuffs over Nolan's wood calmed down some...
Relaxing inside:
The alumilite casting process under Professor Jay:
It was also great to put some faces with names and to meet people with a similar passion- not something I have the chance to do very often. Thanks so much to everyone that I got wood and blanks from (Nolan, Jay, Dave). Now I just have to motivate myself to go out to that hot shop and make something!
I'm attaching pix from what I took:
Not exactly sure why everyone was so interested in Jay's butt in this first picture, but it is interesting to look at, you have to admit... (the picture I mean![:I])
The CA/finishing demo:
This was the picture after the fisticuffs over Nolan's wood calmed down some...
Relaxing inside:
The alumilite casting process under Professor Jay:
JayDevin
Member
Hey !!! I think I have a nice Butt!!!
LOL I was muuushing alumilite down!!
LOL I was muuushing alumilite down!!
markgum
Member
did anyone take notes on the CA finish demo? I tried what I remembered yesterday; and ended up sanding the CA off 3 times. Thought it was thin, thin, thick, accellerator, thick, buff with red, buff with white.
and Greg what is that fancy stuff called (again) to make the 'non-stick' bushings out of. HPDE ABCDEFGHIJK.... Guess I need to take more Ginkgo now-a-days.
and Greg what is that fancy stuff called (again) to make the 'non-stick' bushings out of. HPDE ABCDEFGHIJK....
Guess I need to take more Ginkgo now-a-days. wudwrkr
Member
Mark,
I believe Dave used three coats of thick (Greg uses 4 coats) before sanding with 400, 4000MM, red buff, white buff and then the fancy stuff. I can't remember what the fancy stuff was either. I know there were two and one was a "mirror" finish compound. I guess I need to get some o dat ginko stuff too.
I believe Dave used three coats of thick (Greg uses 4 coats) before sanding with 400, 4000MM, red buff, white buff and then the fancy stuff. I can't remember what the fancy stuff was either. I know there were two and one was a "mirror" finish compound. I guess I need to get some o dat ginko stuff too.
gketell
Local Chapter Leader
My Method Dave's method
2 thin 2 thin
4 thick w/ accel 3 thick w/ accel
400 w/ a block 400 w/ a block
end mill to remove excess CA MM 3200
0000 steel wool MM 3600
MM 4000 MM 4000
Red Rouge Auto rubbing/buffing compound
White Rouge Auto polishing compound
Flitz metal polish Auto swirl remover
Auto wax (Eagle One w/ teflon) Auto wax (Eagle One w/ Teflon)
End mill
I was doing lots of research yesterday trying to build up a chart of sanding grits for sand paper, MM, compounds, steel wools, etc. One thing I found was that with the rouges and compounds you can't ever know what grit you are getting unless you buy it straight from the manufacturer, and even then you are often out of luck. For instance there is a manufacturer of rouges who have 4 different "red rouges" that look exactly alike but are different. And 3 different "green rouges". If you buy "the same" red rouge from a middle man you may not be getting the same red rouge. Same with rubbing/buffing/polishing compounds; different manufacturers use different grits/different materials for the "same" compound. And vendors don't want to tell you what they are using because it is a competitive advantage. For instance, if anyone can find the micron sizes used in the Novus polish lines I would love to have it. And 3M has multiple different rubbing/buffing compounds under the same name, each with a different "cut". Very annoying.
So, your best bet is to pick a brand you like and stick with it. The person I learned my CA technique from uses the 3M system (he is an autobody guy so has sources):
3Mâ"¢ Perfect-Itâ"¢ III Rubbing Compound
3Mâ"¢ Finesse-itâ"¢ II Finishing Material
3Mâ"¢ Perfect-Itâ"¢ 3000 Swirl Mark Remover
but any brands that you find work will work. The beauty of it is, as Dave said, once you find a bottle/tub of the "stuff you like", it is a lifetime supply for what we do.
Just FYI, here is what I found yesterday:
GK
2 thin 2 thin
4 thick w/ accel 3 thick w/ accel
400 w/ a block 400 w/ a block
end mill to remove excess CA MM 3200
0000 steel wool MM 3600
MM 4000 MM 4000
Red Rouge Auto rubbing/buffing compound
White Rouge Auto polishing compound
Flitz metal polish Auto swirl remover
Auto wax (Eagle One w/ teflon) Auto wax (Eagle One w/ Teflon)
End mill
I was doing lots of research yesterday trying to build up a chart of sanding grits for sand paper, MM, compounds, steel wools, etc. One thing I found was that with the rouges and compounds you can't ever know what grit you are getting unless you buy it straight from the manufacturer, and even then you are often out of luck. For instance there is a manufacturer of rouges who have 4 different "red rouges" that look exactly alike but are different. And 3 different "green rouges". If you buy "the same" red rouge from a middle man you may not be getting the same red rouge. Same with rubbing/buffing/polishing compounds; different manufacturers use different grits/different materials for the "same" compound. And vendors don't want to tell you what they are using because it is a competitive advantage. For instance, if anyone can find the micron sizes used in the Novus polish lines I would love to have it. And 3M has multiple different rubbing/buffing compounds under the same name, each with a different "cut". Very annoying.
So, your best bet is to pick a brand you like and stick with it. The person I learned my CA technique from uses the 3M system (he is an autobody guy so has sources):
3Mâ"¢ Perfect-Itâ"¢ III Rubbing Compound
3Mâ"¢ Finesse-itâ"¢ II Finishing Material
3Mâ"¢ Perfect-Itâ"¢ 3000 Swirl Mark Remover
but any brands that you find work will work. The beauty of it is, as Dave said, once you find a bottle/tub of the "stuff you like", it is a lifetime supply for what we do.
Just FYI, here is what I found yesterday:
GK
gketell
Local Chapter Leader
By the way, the bushings for CA work we use are UHMW (ultra high molecular weight) plastic which you can get from Woodcraft or any number of places. It is a cheaper alternative to the "ultimate" non-stick plastic called Delrin that you can get from JohnnyCNC as part of his bushing kits and JCollazo http://www.turncrafts.com/plastics.html as bars to make whatever you want out of it.
GK
GK
Johnathan
Member
Thanks everyone for making it a fun Saturday.
markgum
Member
Hey Greg;
thanks. need to perfect my sanding methods and get some of the auto wax stuff. I used a buffing kit I picked up from HF with a red and white buffing compound. not sure I really like it; but will have to give it another try.
thanks again.
thanks. need to perfect my sanding methods and get some of the auto wax stuff. I used a buffing kit I picked up from HF with a red and white buffing compound. not sure I really like it; but will have to give it another try.
thanks again.
JayDevin
Member
Mark
I have plenty of uhmw let me know the next time you are coming to woodcraft and I will share!
PM and I will give you my cell!
I have plenty of uhmw let me know the next time you are coming to woodcraft and I will share!
PM and I will give you my cell!
markgum
Member
casting demo results.
I got brave enough to turn the casting we did at the meeting, way back when. Thought I would share with you all the photos of the cigar pen I turned. It was fun turning it. How did everyone elses' turn out?
yeah; I know I still need to work on the photo stuff... It's more fun to turn than to take photos...
I got brave enough to turn the casting we did at the meeting, way back when. Thought I would share with you all the photos of the cigar pen I turned. It was fun turning it. How did everyone elses' turn out?
yeah; I know I still need to work on the photo stuff... It's more fun to turn than to take photos...
