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Did that last year and it was FREE. Tried it this time (yesterday) and I am being charged by H&R Block around $35.00 [:(!]. Apparently it is only free the first time [:D].

I printed the form instead and mailed it today, direct deposit of course.[8D]

Originally posted by ilikewood
<br />I'll have mine done before the weekend...efile and direct deposit...fast and effective![:)]
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What's an income tax[?] I make pens not money.[:eek:)] Will file mine by the end of May. The 'refund' goes to wifey in return for staying out of my shop. Seems fair[;)]

-Peter-
 
I used to enjoy a refund! The last couple years something has gone wrong and I am now writing checks.[xx(]
 
Remember a REFUND is the government returning the money YOU GAVE them, over and above what YOU OWED them. AND, they hold the money for you interest-free!!!

THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING!!!!![:(][:(][:(]

IF you can end up owing them a couple bucks (not enough to have to pay any penalties), you have calculated well!![:)][:)]
 
Originally posted by ed4copies
<br />Remember a REFUND is the government returning the money YOU GAVE them, over and above what YOU OWED them. AND, they hold the money for you interest-free!!!

THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING!!!!![:(][:(][:(]

IF you can end up owing them a couple bucks (not enough to have to pay any penalties), you have calculated well!![:)][:)]
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I know...but it still give me an incredible feeling when I get my money back. As Mastercard says...PRICELESS. [;)]
 
Dario,

Feel free to send me as much as you want this week or any week. I will send it back to you 6 weeks after you request it -NO CHARGE!!!!!
 
I look at it two ways.
First way, them theiving SOB's using my money to line their pockets and fund all their nonsense committees, and everything else they can dream up as to why they can spend my money smarter than I can, and so they can fund all the programs that I need, but am not smart enough to know that I need them. I read somewhere that the new Speaker of the House said something to the effect that we should all be taxed 100% on our stock market investment profits. Who knows, probably twisted up somehow... we can hope.
Second way, I like to have paved roads, police, and fire protection even though I have to pay for it and a few million "guests" get it all for free.

I'm still trying to find the break even point. But I'd rather have a return than have to pay them yet more money.
 
Originally posted by ed4copies
<br />Remember a REFUND is the government returning the money YOU GAVE them, over and above what YOU OWED them. AND, they hold the money for you interest-free!!!

THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING!!!!![:(][:(][:(]

IF you can end up owing them a couple bucks (not enough to have to pay any penalties), you have calculated well!![:)][:)]
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LOL

I've been lucky enough not to get a refund for years
 
August 15th is the deadline for extensions and the Sept. 15th for Corps & LLC's
so I won't think about it till then.

I wonder if I will be alive when there is a real tax revolt? You know, someday it has to come. I'm with Kevin, don't mind paying for the neccesities, but the pork barrell just keeps getting bigger at our expense.
 
Ed, Not always the case. I can calculate all I want, but with the adoption benefits I get (bribery for adopting 3 kids), the number never is right.
 
Originally posted by PenWorks
<br />I wonder if I will be alive when there is a real tax revolt? You know, someday it has to come. I'm with Kevin, don't mind paying for the neccesities, but the pork barrell just keeps getting bigger at our expense.
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You're not alone Anthony. The pork barrel is alive and well north of the border too.[:(!]
 
Perhaps we should redefine:
Calculate:
The process of arriving at a number that is CLOSE to the desired result. Sometimes the result of an extremely accurate hurl of a pointed object, frequently called a "dart". For synonyms, see "unlikely".[:0][:0][:0]


BETTER???????[;)][;)]
 
Anthony,

Sounds like you may OWE money. SEND IT TO ME NOW!!!!!!
I will protect it for you and send back when you file. Since you are an especially good friend, I will only charge you a pittance, say 10% for this rare service. (Less if you can convince Ron to do so, also!!)
 
Ray and I write checks every year[:(]

We don't mind paying for needed things for our country but we're trying to figure out what idiot got a job telling someone to put "5 miles per hour" signs on all our dirt roads in our valley to keep the dust down. You have no idea how many roads that is, hundreds upon thousands. I need a job like that!!!!!

Pork Barrels[V]
 
Sounds like we're all in the same boat. Not trying to get puliticul here, but I'm all for abolishing the Infernal Rip-off Service and going with a Federal Sales Tax. That way we simply pay based on what we spend. And everyone knows, the more you make, the more you spend. Equitable for everyone. Just thinkin' outloud agin.
 
Originally posted by ed4copies
<br />Remember a REFUND is the government returning the money YOU GAVE them, over and above what YOU OWED them. AND, they hold the money for you interest-free!!!

THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING!!!!![:(][:(][:(]

IF you can end up owing them a couple bucks (not enough to have to pay any penalties), you have calculated well!![:)][:)]
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QFT.

I'm always amazed at people who are pleased at having given an interest free loan to the government.

I'd much rather write a $500 check than get a $2000 refund.

jeff
 
Originally posted by jeffj13
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QFT.

I'm always amazed at people who are pleased at having given an interest free loan to the government.

I'd much rather write a $500 check than get a $2000 refund.

jeff
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Jeff,

I am all aware of what I should do and yes I am giving the Gov't free loan...but that is what I want to do. I save my money that way...I know too that I can put it in the bank and earn interest but it doesn't work for me that way.

I just hope you (and others) would respect my choice...wrong or not.

Thank you
 
Originally posted by Dario
<br />I save my money that way...I know too that I can put it in the bank and earn interest but it doesn't work for me that way.

I just hope you (and others) would respect my choice...wrong or not.

Thank you
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No problem Dario, heck it's your money!

Fact is there are more people like you who look forward to a refund than like me who like to pay out on tax day.

People look forward to that refund for at least 40 years of their working life. What they don't imagine is the long term gain they are missing out on.

Sightly off topic, did you know what credit card companies call people who pay they credit card bill in full in month.... Deadbeats!

I like being a deadbeat.
 
LOL. Ron, in that case I don't mind being a deadbeat also!

I know that...take advantage of the CC for a month thing [;)] and maybe even a cash back and don't let them take any interest from you [:D]

EDIT IN:
I think some of you know me to some degree and I am no moron. There is a reason to my madness. This is not permanent and some things have to be dealt a certain way (this way for now)...maybe later I can shed more light to it. For now that is all I can say.
 
Well'p it looks like my wife and I did something simply fantastic this year! No check writing and we get a piddly refund that is under $100.00! That's the way to play the game.[:D]
 
I have been struggling for years now trying to get that "dart" to hit the right mark. I have to write a pretty good sized check every year, but last year was the first year in two or three that I did not have to pay a penality ... whew. I guess I am getting a little closer to the target. I would love to get within a C note on either side of Zero. I too do not send mine in by snail mail until the 15th of April.
I'm with Billy.... National Sales Tax or fair tax all the way!!!
 
I work for that company (no hate mail please, I get enough from my Business Units), and if I don't file, I get thrown in the slammer, lose my job and get fined[V]. BTW, you have until April 17 this year due to the Emancepation Day in DC. Normally, this would only occur for states that file in Andover, MA, but this year you all get to sweat a little longer[:D]. Always try and file electronically (that's my area), even for those that have to pay. Remember, you file paper and an error is made in transcription, your still liable.

A National Sales Tax or a Flat Tax won't work, unless you like paying 35 to 40% taxes (this came from econimists).


PS: Plant a tree for Tu B'Shvat (New Year for Trees). Eventually, you'll have more wood to make pens[:D].
Kol Tov,
 
This is the way I look at it. I don't always have $800 to fork over to someone, so if I can have someone take out $20 a paycheck extra and give me back the $$$, then I feel better. Not only that, but $20 in the bank plus interest isn't going to get you anywhere upwards of $20.02 at the end of the year. We get charged %%%% in interest rates when we borrow, and the companies think it's great that they offer us 2% back on our cash.

Sure, I make no interest but I'd rather the govt use my money for 1% something good than have a corporation use my money so they can give people credit at 25% interest.
 
Have any of you heard of the Fair Tax Book? It is about a workable plan to eliminate the IRS and we would pay as you go. This plan is currently working it's way through Congress. The book spells it out in plain simple language. You might buy a copy at your local book store. Runs around $10.00
 
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I work for that company (no hate mail please, I get enough from my Business Units), and if I don't file, I get thrown in the slammer, lose my job and get fined. BTW, you have until April 17 this year due to the Emancepation Day in DC. Normally, this would only occur for states that file in Andover, MA, but this year you all get to sweat a little longer. Always try and file electronically (that's my area), even for those that have to pay. Remember, you file paper and an error is made in transcription, your still liable.

A National Sales Tax or a Flat Tax won't work, unless you like paying 35 to 40% taxes (this came from econimists).



READ THE BOOK!! BY the way who are these "economists"? The state of Florida has used this system for decades. Florida has a strong economy and no state income tax. The Fair Tax Book explains it all. Is anyone besides myself a little concerned when an envelope with an IRS return address shows up. The layering of taxes on consumer goods is an expense no one including the Govt profits from.
 
Originally posted by woodbutcher
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A National Sales Tax or a Flat Tax won't work, unless you like paying 35 to 40% taxes (this came from econimists).
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Maybe it would work if the goverment spent 40% less of our money, build less bombs, invade less countries and then rebuild them.
 
Billy you didn't start this. It started over 100 years ago when somebody sold the goverment something. The contractor screwed the goverment, the politician lined his pocket and then ordered 100 more [:(!] I wouldn'd doubt if we are still ordering muskets from someone [:D]
 
The economist came from both sides, Republican and Democrat. To eliminate the IRS is folly. Who do you think is going to collect it, the states. They have enough problems collecting their own taxes. As for Florida, yes they have no State tax, but their Property and sales taxes are higher than states with state taxes. If you want to see how a flat and national tax works, ask someone in Europe. Their National tax is anywhere from 20 to 40 percent, and their flat tax is approaching anywhere from 30 to 50 percent. Like it or not, the US tax structure is better than most. And I do agree, we spend way to much on contractors.

Just to let you also know, I've worked for the IRS for 19+ years and no, I don't even do my own taxes and I don't deal with the tax processing, I do Project management now after programming for 20+ years. I go to an accountant (IRS employees have a greater chance of getting audited than someone who makes over 150K/yr).

Kol Tov,
 
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With all due respect Jeff, I would expect exactly that response from an employee of the IRS. I would react in a similar way if there was a movement of people trying to eliminate my job.

As far as the comment "Who do you think is going to collect it, the states", that is the whole point of the fair tax. The federal government still collects the tax, only it is collected as a sales tax based on what each person chooses to purchase rather than an income tax. I understand that the fair tax is a combustible topic. The numbers are easily skewed by anyone trying to promote their side of the issue. I am personally a fan of anything that would take any amount of power away from the government and put it in the hands of the people.

By the way, I live in Tennessee, which has no state income tax. Our sales tax is only 2% higher than North Carolina, where I used to live and pay state income tax as well as an annual property tax on each of my vehicles. I have no problem paying a higher sales tax since I have a choice in what I buy.
 
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