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ed4copies

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Wed update: Well, it worked all day Tuesday. Now, it appears the login function has difficulties. Which makes the "cart system" fail, sometimes.

Solutions of sorts: Cut and paste your cart into an email and send it to sales at exoticblanks period com (hopefully sending bots off the track)

OR send us an email with your phone number and we will call you for the order.

OR register for a new account, it appears this works--but you have to use a different email from the one that exotics already will recognize.

I'm sure you know we are working on a better solution. Will keep you informed and thanks to those who have kept US informed!!!




They say, "Success breeds success!!!" Well that is not always true.

Thanks, in great part to the folks on IAP, there are times Exotics has very high traffic. We are happy to have built a popular "place to visit" with "cool toys" for turning pens.

Unfortunately, our web host possesses the "customer service skills" of a deaf elephant. So, if you attempt to go to Exotics, you may not be able to access the site. This morning they determined that our traffic was putting a strain on their server, so they "limited" the traffic.

Dean is furious, since he had this issue in May and resolved it---since then the webhost has NOT said anything and the "gas gauge of use" has been in the green.

So, for the moment, I am explaining WHY exotics may not open for you. I have spoken with the "no service" sales group and written an email to the owner of the site. Before I publicly launch on a smear campaign, I want to give them a fair shot at rectifying this problem.

Stay tuned---but SORRY for the disruption at Exotics. We hope we will be back to normal soon.

Ed & Dawn
 
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LOL I just sent a message to Dawn asking if there was a problem. Thanks for the update. I'll try again later, since so much traffic, hope theres stuff left when I get there.
 
Thanks for the heads up! It has been a day or two since you posted anything about the site... I was wondering if you were still around or not!
 
Thanks for the note and explaination. Crap happens and it's even crappier when it's not your fault and when the people whose fault it is aren't doing anything about it. Sorry to hear about your troubles, but I'm sure it will all get figured out soon.
 
Ed, i am sorry to hear that you had trouble with your site I didn't know that there was a restrictions of how many clicks on your site, that sure sucks to me that you have to stop your growth.
 
ed4copies said:
Wish I could say the same for you.
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Yeah it probably would make it easier on you if i weren't here to constantly complain about your infractions...

No worries. I have given up on that fight. I chalk it up to something similar to "Jordan's Rules" in the NBA when he played. I figure it's just a matter of time until the homepage reads:


"IAP--- Brought to you by Exoticblanks.com"... At least then everyone would understand why you get so much leeway when it comes to the rules!:biggrin:
 
RAdams said:
Yeah it probably would make it easier on you if i weren't here to constantly complain about your infractions...

No worries. I have given up on that fight. I chalk it up to something similar to "Jordan's Rules" in the NBA when he played. I figure it's just a matter of time until the homepage reads:


"IAP--- Brought to you by Exoticblanks.com"... At least then everyone would understand why you get so much leeway when it comes to the rules!:biggrin:
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While I contribute what I can, I guess that is a higher probability than the chance we will read:

IAP---Brought to you by RAdams!!!!
 
Wow -- not only wasn't I able to access the site, I was FORBIDDEN!

"You are forbidden to enter this site."

And all I wanted to do was browse! Suppose they knew I was a voyeur?
:)
Doug
 
Ok, there's a good chance that this thread may get out of hand if we let it. The open forum is no place for personal bickering. Let's adhere to the acceptable use practice and ensure that we don't get this thread locked.

Curtis has his hands full enough.

Ron, if you have specific claims that Ed is violating either the Terms of Service or Acceptable Use Policy, use the yellow triangle to report the post to Curtis, citing which rule is being violated. Otherwise, posts like that serve no use whatsoever.

Just a friendly reminder. :)
 
I believe everyone has a right to their opinion. I also believe it's best to be silent when you have nothing constructive to say.

This time I subscribed to the philosophy of those who choose to slam my participation in this forum. Constructive or not, just say it!!
 
Slam?

ed4copies said:
those who choose to slam my participation in this forum. Constructive or not, just say it!!
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I love your participation! For those that don't know, Ed not only sells stuff, he stands ready to help people, too. I have been turning pens for only 2 months, and have relied heavily on Ed and Dawn for help. Help that is way above and beyond what you expect just because he sells stuff.

To Ed I say: CHEERS!

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Exotics....... Down???? :( im also getting a forbidden error :p all i wanted to do was show a friend a few blanks yeesh what did i do :p
 
maxwell_smart007 said:
Ok, there's a good chance that this thread may get out of hand if we let it. The open forum is no place for personal bickering. Let's adhere to the acceptable use practice and ensure that we don't get this thread locked.

Curtis has his hands full enough.

Ron, if you have specific claims that Ed is violating either the Terms of Service or Acceptable Use Policy, use the yellow triangle to report the post to Curtis, citing which rule is being violated. Otherwise, posts like that serve no use whatsoever.

Just a friendly reminder. :)
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No, I don't have any problem with Ed..... on a personal level that is...

And for the record, I have reported the infractions, Listed numerous infractions, and quoted the rules that were broken. Due to "behind the scenes" drama, My reports were useless.

I am all for people contributing, but sometimes it is nice to see someone contribute for the sake of contributing, as opposed to contributing to generate sales revenue, or site traffic.
 
RAdams said:
No, I don't have any problem with Ed..... on a personal level that is...

And for the record, I have reported the infractions, Listed numerous infractions, and quoted the rules that were broken. Due to "behind the scenes" drama, My reports were useless.

I am all for people contributing, but sometimes it is nice to see someone contribute for the sake of contributing, as opposed to contributing to generate sales revenue, or site traffic.
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Or maybe it is because your complaints are not valid. Just a thought.

How's that RAK game of yours going?
 
Amusing

RAdams said:
No, I don't have any problem with Ed..... on a personal level that is...

And for the record, I have reported the infractions, Listed numerous infractions, and quoted the rules that were broken. Due to "behind the scenes" drama, My reports were useless.

I am all for people contributing, but sometimes it is nice to see someone contribute for the sake of contributing, as opposed to contributing to generate sales revenue, or site traffic.
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I am always amused by folks who are capable of "seeing in my soul" and can tell YOU what motivates ME!!!

There are a few such "visionaries" on the IAP. It would be nice if you all spent your efforts guiding others on better ways to turn pens. So far, I have seen no "youtubes" from these folks.

Also interesting that they fail to mention the three years I was on IAP BEFORE Exotics existed. Nor is there mention of the threads that bemoaned the lack of a "one-source" vendor--the threads that started Dawn and I thinking about FOUNDING Exotics.

So, these "relative newcomers" preach about my activities.

I will no longer accept this crud. Start showing us what YOU contribute!!
 
mbroberg said:
Or maybe it is because your complaints are not valid. Just a thought.

How's that RAK game of yours going?
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I was going to argue with this statement, but you are actually correct. My complaints are valid inside the listed AUP and TOS, but like i mentioned earlier, Those rules don't seem to be applicable to everyone here. This is the primary reason i quit reporting the infractions. I guess every bar needs a rose peddler:biggrin:. I was just trying to give Ed a hard time originally... Guess i shoulda added a smiley:rolleyes:. That probably would have kept him from shivving me, and etc. etc.

The RAK game is going good i guess. I am working on several RAK contributions in my shop right now in fact!! One of them is about ready to come out of the pressure pot!
 
glycerine said:
Gary Max! Call me slow, but I am just now realizing that you're back! Welcome back... I heard you were taking some time away. Glad to see you came back to the IAP.
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OK---------your slow
Did you see the really cool decal pens I make???????
Remember this is a pen making site------:biggrin:
 
RAdams said:
I was going to argue with this statement, but you are actually correct. My complaints are valid inside the listed AUP and TOS, but like i mentioned earlier, Those rules don't seem to be applicable to everyone here. This is the primary reason i quit reporting the infractions. I guess every bar needs a rose peddler:biggrin:. I was just trying to give Ed a hard time originally... Guess i shoulda added a smiley:rolleyes:. That probably would have kept him from shivving me, and etc. etc.

The RAK game is going good i guess. I am working on several RAK contributions in my shop right now in fact!! One of them is about ready to come out of the pressure pot!
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And every guy in prison "didn't do it!!"

That's why there is a judge--if your complaints were VALID, action would be taken--They are NOT. I read the rules too--and I abide by them.

This thread was started to simply inform the membership (who care) that there was a reason they could not contact Exotics. I had no intention of ENCOURAGING folks to GO TO a site that was DOWN because of TOO MUCH TRAFFIC!! THINK ABOUT THAT!!!
 
ed4copies said:
I am always amused by folks who are capable of "seeing in my soul" and can tell YOU what motivates ME!!!

There are a few such "visionaries" on the IAP. It would be nice if you all spent your efforts guiding others on better ways to turn pens. So far, I have seen no "youtubes" from these folks.

Also interesting that they fail to mention the three years I was on IAP BEFORE Exotics existed. Nor is there mention of the threads that bemoaned the lack of a "one-source" vendor--the threads that started Dawn and I thinking about FOUNDING Exotics.

So, these "relative newcomers" preach about my activities.

I will no longer accept this crud. Start showing us what YOU contribute!!
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First, before i reply to the quote above........


I LOVE YOU GARY! Thank you for posting what you did, when and where you did! You are a good friend, and i appreciate you being there to "slow me down"!


Now then... I don't claim to see into anyone's soul or whatever... But i do know how to search the boards.

I spend a fair share of time "guiding" the "young" turners, and to be perfectly real about it... I never claimed to be the source for information on any topic related to penturning. I will be the first to mention that IAP is the source for 90% of my penturning knowledge. I am here to learn, and offer what little bit of assistance i can... when i can.

BUT.. While we are on the topic of helping, I have posted several tutorials on different subjects and how i tackle these subjects. I even mention in at least one tutorial that my knowledge is cumulative of reading tons of tutorials, mostly right here on IAP.

I would be totally glad to share my skills in the form of youtube videos. Unfortunately, I only have access to dialup internet. Have you ever tried to upload a video to the net on dialup? It simply doesn't work.

And while we are on the subject of youtube videos, It was pretty sly how you just so happened to use a blank that is brand new to exotics, and of course you have to mention that fact, Even though it clearly states in the rules that you aren't supposed to use any sneaky advertising or marketing schemes.

I am in no way trying to discount the time you have put in. I am also in no way trying to say that exotics is a bad thing. Using these statements in your argument gives the impression that your Seniority gives you special allowances when it comes ot the rules.


If YOU want to see what I contribute, search through my posts. In fact, I offer anyone to search through my posts to see what I contribute! You may be suprised!!

Now, I think i have met your challenge, and if you don't mind, I would like to challenge YOU.

I shared my contributions gladly! Let's see a few contributions from you that are NOT a commercial for your website. Post any pens lately?? How about any Polls???
 
Ron - You are way off base here. We have a Sheriff (Jeff) and a Deputy (Curtis). You are not the law, they are. You may report things TO THEM and not here in the forum. Once their decision is made, shut up about it. You, like me, are a guest!
 
Every time I post a pen, SOME people say its an ad.

Probably would surprise you to learn I don't have a lot of time for turning lately. When I turn, it is usually a product I SELL. You see, in order to sound "expert", I need to TURN the material.

So, you have outlined a "Catch 22".

Wanna see some pens, I have dozens here to photo--all the new stuff that just came from Italy--only way I can tell people how to turn it is to "do it myself'.

But then you will say I am advertising---so I am not allowed to post them in SOYP, am I??

Who does this discriminate against, again????
 
There was a thread on here recently about the ignore feature. My suggestion to Ron and Ed is to go to their user control panel and put each other on ignore.
 
I have never put anyone on Ignore and I don't intend to start now.

I treat people with respect and attempt to avoid confrontation. As a result some think they can "walk on me" It's time to stop that.
 
It's not up to us to determine who is breaking the rules. Our job, as guests on this forum, is to treat each other with respect, and obey the rules to the best of our abilities.

If we think a rule is being broken, either a Terms of Service rule or a violation of the Acceptable Use Policy, then it is up to us to report it to the 'authorities', by clicking on the yellow triangle.

If a rule is being broken, we have to tell Curtis (via the yellow triangle) WHICH rule has been broken. It is then up to him to use his judgement to determine what, if anything, has to be done.

Ron, if your reports of infractions weren't heeded, you can be sure that they were read, if you used the process above. If nothing was done, then it's likely that no rule was broken, or that a non-public solution was found.
 
DCBluesman said:
Ron - You are way off base here. We have a Sheriff (Jeff) and a Deputy (Curtis). You are not the law, they are. You may report things TO THEM and not here in the forum. Once their decision is made, shut up about it. You, like me, are a guest!
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AMEN! I have been a member of this site going on 16 months now. Ed and Dawn are one of many vendors I choose to purchase from frequently that belong to IAP. I buy from them because they sell quality items at really fair prices. Ed's posts to this site are informative I never felt he was advertising.
If a member shows off a pen they just made and states the blank came from Exotics and the kit was from whomever should that be prohibited because it might be seen as "advertising" for that vendor......

Ron, it appears to me you are the only one complaining and it looks like you've succeeded in turning a post that was meant to inform IAP members about a website problem into a "rant" again.
 
ed4copies said:
I have never put anyone on Ignore and I don't intend to start now.

I treat people with respect and attempt to avoid confrontation. As a result some think they can "walk on me" It's time to stop that.
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Hang tough Ed! Hope the website stuff works out for you. Sometimes you have to just move on around some of the obstacles. You know what I am saying. I love all the suggestions etc you have given me. Thanks for being there for me.
 
Man these rants make me want to take thorazine by the quart, but I think I'll just go turn a black pearl
 
ed4copies said:
I believe everyone has a right to their opinion. I also believe it's best to be silent when you have nothing constructive to say.

This time I subscribed to the philosophy of those who choose to slam my participation in this forum. Constructive or not, just say it!!
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Bravo Ed...Bravo!
 
Back to the "Exotics" saga:

They have no intention of putting the site back on line because we "jeopardize their other customers' use". The fact that we have had much higher traffic in the past falls on deaf ears, as does the inconvenience to OUR customers.

Until Dean finishes with the Technical people, I will not name this hosting service. I will answer PM's.

I'm afraid, at present, we cannot say how long this will last. This morning it was hours, now it may be days.

Clearly we are sorry for the inconvenience!! and frustrated with the web host.
 
Ed,

That is certainly the pits concerning your web site. I don't know the terms of your contract with them but I would:

1. Be looking at legal action if possible.
2. Be looking for a new web host.

As far as the slamming issue goes I am sorry. You simply can't please some people, no matter how hard you try.

Good luck with both problems!

Carl
 
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Ed,

Have you guys looked into a different provider? It seems like there should be some terms of use as far as how much content can be downloaded per day. I know when we setup my site, we had to choose different plans based on the amount of traffic we expected.

Maybe it is as easy as uping your usage contract? Just a few thoughts...
 
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