onewaywood
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I heard a rumor a while ago that the other penturner site was set up just for this very reason .....
absolutely disgusted! Hey Poppers-n-Pens!
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Ron in Drums PA
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I wonder what would have happen if Poppers offered a free copy of this DVD in exchange for what he needed?
Dario
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I bet it would have been totally different. [
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Skye
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I guess I find the whole topic odd.
Do we beat someone down who is asking for donations while ringing a bell outside the mall at Christmas? No.
Do we all give people free blanks, people we know, even sometimes people we don’t know? Yes.
Is it simply because he asked for them?
It's rather hard to be charitable if we're unaware of the charity.
Do we beat someone down who is asking for donations while ringing a bell outside the mall at Christmas? No.
Do we all give people free blanks, people we know, even sometimes people we don’t know? Yes.
Is it simply because he asked for them?
It's rather hard to be charitable if we're unaware of the charity.
Poppers-n-Pens
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Cav, All is forgiven. I too, was angry and allowed my temper to control how I responded to you. You did not deserve that. I'm sorry. [
] As someone else posted, if my second post had been my first, I would have gotten a different response. I tried to keep my student's personal information private, as I felt that would make me look "beggy."
I would also like to apologize to you for the tone in which I wrote to you. In no way was I trying to challenge you or your intellect so I apologize that it came off that way. Please forgive me.
Also, when I said "I haven't found exactly what I'm looking for," I wished you could see the image I have in my head. It's stunning! I'm sure you've had one of those "I'll know it when I see it - That's what I'm looking for - I've gotta have that one - no, not the one right behind it - I want that one!" moments. I've checked the sites and the magazines and nothing compares to the vision I have in my head. It is truly amazing!
<b><u>To everyone else that hammered me for my post</u></b>[
]....Here it comes....Ready or not....whether you want it or not....[
]I forgive you, too. Yeah, it stung briefly, but I'm over it. I hope we can move past this (quickly) to have a good forum relationship.
I apologize for my newbie-ness. I wasn't aware that my words were that bad. I apologize for seeming like a beggard for materials. That was not my intent at all. Hopefully that is clear now. As was pointed out to me privately, I'm also sorry for seeming arrogant when I said "I would prefer..." Yeah, I know, we ALL would prefer. [
]What can I say? I guess I wasn't thinking about how my post might affect others. And I thank those of you who tried to give me suggestions on how I could have worded this post.
A couple people have reminded me of the phrase "It's the thought that counts..." and I ask them three rhetorical questions now,
1. If I think about wanting to make this young man a pen, but then do nothing about it, what has he gained unless I take steps to see that happen?
2. When was the last time someone came to you to check out your pens, left, and then came back with a Bic or Papermate and says to you "You know, I thought about buying one of your pens - I even had the money ready - but I decided to go with one of these because a pen's a pen, right?
3. What was the last gift you received that you felt it was just "the thought that counted?" (Minus gifts from your kids and your spouse - you're supposed to accept those, no questions asked) [
]Exactly why it can't just be the thought that counts. People only say that when they are disappointed with the gift they got (unless it came from the aforemention exemptions), and I know none of you would set out to disappoint anyone. Neither would I.
So, with that, I'm sorry that some became offended; I'm sorry for not being clear (I'll work on that); I'm sorry for seeming arrogant (which I'm not). Please forgive me. I trust that this board is as people have told me in PMs. If this is supposed to be "a family," then we should be the first ones to forgive when someone hurts our feelings or does something we don't like.[
]Terrence
P.S. [Tongue-in-cheek] Can someone please tell me how many posts I must have before I'm allowed request something from anyone???? I didn't know I hadn't met my quota. [
][][]Poppers-n-Pens
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That's the funny thing about the Send Button. I thought of that after hitting the send button. I was writing my OP at work and had to get back to playing with the money so after a quick re-read, I sent the message.
Since the original post, a few people have PM-ed me offering their help. Of those I've had the chance to respond to, I've offered each of them a copy of the DVD, but as of yet they haven't confirmed whether they would like said copy. Keeping in mind, I can't check my work email from home (so I don't know if they have replied yet) and that is the address I have set up for receiving the PMs right now (its the one I signed up with).
I'm <b>always</b> okay with bartering.
Thanks.
ahoiberg
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merry posting to all and to all a good night.
Ron in Drums PA
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You can always edit your reply after you hit the send button.
cozee
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Please note, this is just my opinion
Granted, things get said that shouldn't but they were said none the less. Going back after things have been posted and read so to change them to appear as though they were never said is a form of deception. I feel it far more honest and showing more charater if one simply leaves their words and corrects them with another post. I have been to to many boards where people lash out then hide behind the edit button. The edit button is not a repentence button nor does it exclude them from righting a wrong they perpertrated. Taking responsibility for one's actions when they were wrong is a great character and integrity builder!!
As I said, Just my opinion.
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Ron in Drums PA
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You are right Greg, I have been a victim of that also.
I apologize if you misinterpreted my meaning, I was trying to help a noob navigate IAP. If in fact that he thought of offering the DVD "After I hit the send button" he wouldn't be hiding from anything, just adding to his post.
But lets give you the benifit of the doubt, if he sent a second post after he hit the send button he would have been ok. Instead it took 4 days for his integrity kick in.
Personally, after reading this thread and mostly because of your response, I wouldn't pay for the MPG DVD.
I apologize if you misinterpreted my meaning, I was trying to help a noob navigate IAP. If in fact that he thought of offering the DVD "After I hit the send button" he wouldn't be hiding from anything, just adding to his post.
But lets give you the benifit of the doubt, if he sent a second post after he hit the send button he would have been ok. Instead it took 4 days for his integrity kick in.
Personally, after reading this thread and mostly because of your response, I wouldn't pay for the MPG DVD.
MesquiteMan
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Come on guys, let's let it rest now. This is going to end up ugly and we will have to lock another thread. Just drop it and move on.
woodbutcher
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Just what is an asshat?[][?][]
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LanceD
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You guys just don't know when to quit [V].
MesquiteMan
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All right, I guess it is time to end this one too. In case anyone is wondering, the message before LanceD's was deleted due to inappropriate language discussing woodbutcher's question. I hate to be a prude but this IS a family site.
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