'Celtic' Knot

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Alan Morrison

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Rather than hijack Ken's post I thought that I would start this one, based on a couple of comments about these knots.

This is my understanding...
Cutting a 1 3 2 4 sequence will give the X superimposed on the O and when the pen is turned side on then the O is superimposed on the X, as in Ken's knots.
This is how I have always cut mine.
Cutting a 1 2 3 4 sequence gives you either 1 under and 3 over .....or the opposite.

My comment on Ken's thread was that a 'proper' knot would have both X lines going over and under the O, not just one, and I wondered if it could be done.
I am not aware of seeing one.
 
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Alan we had this conversation not long ago and there were examples of both given. In Ken's thread I just posted some older threads with various versions of the Celtic Knot that was taken to new heights. What I would like to see if a person does multiple knots to mix the sequence up and combine them within the design. That could look interesting.
 
Cutting them 1,3,2,4 gives you a more symmetrical look when looking straight on one side. Cutting them 1,2,3,4, when looking at one side, you'll have one over and one under. I don't believe one way is correct over the other, whatever you prefer. A customer will never notice. I'm also thinking none of this matters much unless you have multi color bands. That being said I'll probably never make them again with just one color. I prefer the multi band color.
 
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Ken, Here are a couple of mine... 1727552968452.png1727552924920.png
 
I number opposite faces. If you start at 1 and rotate around its 1-3-2-4. And that's I cut the blank 1-2-3-4.

Ray

A true Celtic knot will have all lines alternatively going over then under.
I have yet to see this done........and neither of the 1234 or 1324 sequences will achieve that.

This is not a criticism of people's knots........I just would love to see how it could be done.
That's all I was trying to say.
 
The true over under would be very neat to see. I think it would involve going around the knot twice to create that your of overlap. It may also be impossible, but who knows for sure. Being a relatively 2-dimensional shape might not fully translate to a cylindrical geometry.
 
A true Celtic knot will have all lines alternatively going over then under.
I have yet to see this done........and neither of the 1234 or 1324 sequences will achieve that.

This is not a criticism of people's knots........I just would love to see how it could be done.
That's all I was trying to say.
First have to designate how you are marking the blank. If you are marking the blank in order as you spin it then it is 1-3 2-4 normal cut. Other way is 1-2-3-4. My thought is what if you cut 1-2 4-3. What would that look like?
 
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First have to designate how you are marking the blank. If you are marking the blank in order as you spin it then it is 1-3 2-4 normal cut. Other way is 1-2-3-4. Now if you mark the blank opposite numbers then 1-2 3-4 works that way as being normal because 2 is opposite side of 1. So you have to be careful of how you talk about your cutting sequences. Just saying. My thought is what if you cut 1-2 4-3. I always mark my blank in sequence as I spin it. What would that look like?
 
A true Celtic knot will have all lines alternatively going over then under.
I have yet to see this done........and neither of the 1234 or 1324 sequences will achieve that.

This is not a criticism of people's knots........I just would love to see how it could be done.
That's all I was trying to say.
I think it would be impossible. I think there are only two cut patterns with variations that would make no difference. You could try cutting it in quarters, where four blanks at .5 glued back together would give you a 1 inch blank. I doubt you could get a decent alignment. Not something I'm him going to try.
 
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