Would you do this with your tablesaw?

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Great product and great video now all he needs to do is get it into mass production across all manufactures of table saws and get the cost down. It would be wonderful to have all table saws have it on them as a standard feature.
 
I've watched the hotdog demo in person and it is very startling to experience the stop saw in action. I must admit that if he had offered a fully loaded stop saw to the first person to stop the blade with his finger, I would have stepped up and given it a try. The chances of getting injured are probably much less dangerous than using my table saw without the stop saw feature.

Jim Smith
 
1) I've never seen the benefit to something that encourages you to become more lax in a shop. Safety devices are nice, but a nice healthy respect/fear of the tool is better in my opinion.

2) other manufactures will not be incorporating his patent until 1) the patent becomes free use 2) legislation is made forcing them or 3) he decides to offer the use at a reasonable price.

Do a search on this and many other forums and you'll find the firestorm that this topic has caused since it's inception.
 
I have seen the demo a few times at the local Woodcraft. I took the wife on the the second demo, and she asked the guy, "how much for that one?" pointing at the Sawstop Professional 10" w/52" fence. Her response was "OK, when will it be here?" And that was my Christmas present. Their adds are correct, Wife Approved.

It is really a great saw, and Mike, I still have fear of that thing every time I use it.

Michael
 
Ha, I've done it! But the blade didn't stop! Locky for me I was faster than the blade.

It's a great device, but, out of my price range. The jointer is the one I fear the most for some reason. I guess it is because I was talking to a guy at a yard sell once, telling him I had just bought a new jointer. He said yep, I have one too. Held his lest hand up and it had the index finger and the thumb left on it. Ouch!

A person has to be careful, for sure.
 
I don't care how much faith I had, I wouldn't stick my fingers into a table saw
that was running just to prove a point. I've had a total of 10 stitches and very
close to the bone of my left thumb.
Al
 
PaulDoug said:
...bought a new jointer. He said yep, I have one too. Held his lest hand up and it had the index finger and the thumb left on it....
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My stepfather has his index finger on his right hand gone thanks to the jointer he passed on to me. I have always been rather leary of that jointer, so I bought a different one. One that has not tasted blood or bone.:frown:

Michael
 
well, I have seen that comercial, it does make sense, however, they said in Europe all the saws are made differently with a simillar features, but no in USA we haven't had the lawmakers make it mandatory yet for the manufacturers to offer that yet. The price of it is still out of range considering that everything else in woodworking are pretty expensive. Meanwhile, Jus tdo respect the tools and don't think that youare David copperfields the magician to stop the cutter not to get you.
 
Safety is key and you only thing you should not do is put your trust in safety equipment and think that it can't fail; The Saw stop is great and I hope that someday I can purchase on because they are great saws as well as it it nice if an accident should occur
 
lost 1/4 of my left index finger. working when tired. Doing something stupid. knew better. Wish I would have had the stop saw. I'd give quite a bit to have my finger back. My 10 year old son saw it happen, and if it keeps him safe, I'd do it again. Jim
 
If I had the $$ I'd buy one in a heartbeat. The way SS nickel and dimes you on their saws though...

The base price of the cab saw is quite reasonable ($3k IIRC). But that doesn't come with a fence, miter, wings, etc etc etc. The contractor saw is better, but still.

Sad, but not everybody can afford one, no matter if it is worth the price or not.
 
Russianwolf said:
1) I've never seen the benefit to something that encourages you to become more lax in a shop. Safety devices are nice, but a nice healthy respect/fear of the tool is better in my opinion.
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I have to agree... the greatest safety device is the human mind... Respect your tools and know the damage they can do, pay attention to what you are doing, keep your mind in your job and watch where your appendages are at all times.... I have an inherent terror of all of my saws, but know that if they bite me, it's most likely my fault... the saw is doing what it's supposed to do.
 
My only regret for my SawStop, is they don't include a WifeStop. There is no feeling of safety or laxness when I operate my SawStop. If it ever fires, my WIFE will KILL me, or cut of something else... Honestly it has changed me to be MORE SAFE.
Tom
 
I actually wasn't impressed with that demo. He just barely touched the blade as slowly and carefully as possible. How often is that the way in which a finger is lost? It's usually either kickback, pulling the hand into the saw (happened to my boss), or feeding into the saw at high speed and forgetting to move your hand. If you're pushing that slowly, when your hand contacts the blade, you're going to jerk it back immediately anyways, without much damage.
I personally spend a good couple hours behind the saw on many days (cabinetmaker) and I'm often feeding in 1/4" sheets as fast as I can push them. I want to see how much of my hand I could possibly jam into the blade at full speed like that before it dropped. I'm guessing it would be more than the little tiny nick that the hot dog gets in their old demo.
Kickback is my other concern, specifically when ripping, sometimes the board can warp inward on the blade, which then hurls it at the wall behind you at lightning speed. If your hand was behind the blade, it could get pulled in. That's what happened to my boss, except he was making a plunge cut where you lower the board onto the blade, which makes it a lot more difficult of a cut.

So here's what I'd like to see:
Blindfold a guy (so he can't anticipate the blade contact) and have him rip a 1/4" 2'x4' or so sheet in half at full speed with his hand flat on the top like he's going to draw a turkey. He'll contact the blade with his hand unexpectedly, just like as if he had gotten distracted at the wrong time. A featherboard or two could be used to make sure the rips it in a straight line while blindfolded.

For the kickback test, it would be hard to recreate an actual kickback safely, and I'd be way more worried about injury at the speed it happens, so hot dogs would have to do. I'd like to see one thrown at the blade at a pretty good speed.
 
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