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Len Shreck

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I have been looking for a list of what woods are recommended to be stabilized before/during turning but have been unable to find one, did I miss it or does one not exist? I am working on a book for here at home and would like to put one in it for reference information. Thanks Len
 
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The problem is that it is not always the "type" of wood but rather the "condition" of the wood that determines if it will need/benefit from stabilization. However, as a general rule the less dense the wood the more it wil benefit from the process.

Eugene.
 
Your reasons for wanting this information from others is interesting.
If you are writing a book, I suggest you do your own research.
To take information from others and use it for your own benefit has several pitfalls. And none of them have nice sounding names. Without doing your own research you do not even know if the 'information' is correct.
Your motives are very bothersome. (to put it as diplomatically as possible)
 
Sounds to me that he IS doing his research. Is that not what a place like this is for?

Besides, he did say "for here at home" so I take that to be for his own use and not a book like you might be thinking. I coudl be wrong, though.
 
Your reasons for wanting this information from others is interesting.
If you are writing a book, I suggest you do your own research.
To take information from others and use it for your own benefit has several pitfalls. And none of them have nice sounding names. Without doing your own research you do not even know if the 'information' is correct.
Your motives are very bothersome. (to put it as diplomatically as possible)
Frank, I've always been willing to see your point of veiw and have not ever challenged your comments but in this case it seems you have taken it to an extreme level of jumping to conclusion without facts or even good cause. I agree with Curtis, about what this forum is about. I think this is EXACTLY the right place to do the research.
 
I hope no one misunderstands what I meant by "making a book" I have been on the diff sites that sell pen kits and have saved every Pen Kit Instructions and printed them out and I have also saved/downloaded some things from this site and printed them I am making a book of info for in the workshop so I will be able to check and double check any info I may need without having to come to the house and power on the computer. I would never try to sell a book of other peoples ideas or techniques I am not that type of person. I am doing exactly what MesquiteMan and other said just a book for my info and then if anyone else needs any that I have I will be more then glad to help in any way. Hope this clarifies my intentions. If anyone has any other concerns I have no problem if they just take down this post so it does not cause trouble for anyone. Thanks for understanding, I hope... Len
 
While not always required, a few that come to mind: Buckey Burl, most spalted woods will benefit, and I prefer stablizing zebrawood personally.
 
Most woods will benefit from stabilizing to a degree. It's not always about making soft, punky, otherwise unusable wood hard and durable.

Much of the wood I sell is for use by knifemakers as handle material and they overwhelmingly prefer their wood and other materials to be stabilized. Stabilized woods are not affected by temperature and moisture the way unstabilized woods are. They don't shrink or swell depending on a climate's humidity or other climatic conditions.

Stabilized woods tend to polish easier and show off the figure better.

They are much harder and less susceptible to denting, cracking or checking.

They are much more water resistant and are much less susceptible to oil or chemical stains.


As for what woods are good candidates for stabilizing? Anything that is not extremely dense or oily. Also wood with a moisture content above 10% should not be stabilized.....6% is ideal.

Some of the woods that I regularly stabilize: All Maples, Walnuts, Amboyna Burl, Afzelia Burl, Curly Koa, Buckeye Burl, York Gum Burl, Red Mallee, Brown Mallee, Corrugata Burl, Concinna Burl, Spalted Hackberry and others.

If you visit my website you'll see a more detailed list of about 35 species (give or take).

Some species to avoid: Ironwood, African Blackwood, cocobolo, Thuya Burl, Camphor Burl, Eucalyptus Burl, Olive wood, and Snakewood.

Anyway, this is far from a complete list but I hope it helps.

Feel free to contact me if I can answer any specific questions.

Best Regards,
 
I find that some woods need to be stabilized once I have turned them and the inside has soft areas. As for your making a book I think that it is a great idea. I have a binder that I have divided by the company, reference material. If you want or need information feel free to contact me. I have drilling charts, bushing charts, pen instructions, etc. I use it a lot. I put things in plastic sheets to protect them. Certainly keeps me from having to look all over for information.
 
The act of applying thin CA to pithy wood itself is an form of stabilizing. Corn cob pens are a candidate.

In many ways, stabilizing and casting are similar. Stabilizing uses thin and very thin liquids that enter micropores and harden, whereas PR casting (resin) is slightly thicker and cover around spacious material and in larger pores (often under pressure or from a vacuum) and harden. At a few points, stabilizing and casting could be said to overlap in their purpose and result.
 
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I started reading this post and was thinking to myself, what would have happened if Len had said he was going to put the information in a binder? Then Cindy commented exactly what I was thinking. I have been putting information in binders for years the same as Cindy does I also have a lot of information saved to the computer. Len I also like to have the information available to me in the shop. Thanks for the answers everybody. We can all benefit from the positive answers.
 
I hope no one misunderstands what I meant by "making a book" I have been on the diff sites that sell pen kits and have saved every Pen Kit Instructions and printed them out and I have also saved/downloaded some things from this site and printed them I am making a book of info for in the workshop so I will be able to check and double check any info I may need without having to come to the house and power on the computer. I would never try to sell a book of other peoples ideas or techniques I am not that type of person. I am doing exactly what MesquiteMan and other said just a book for my info and then if anyone else needs any that I have I will be more then glad to help in any way. Hope this clarifies my intentions. If anyone has any other concerns I have no problem if they just take down this post so it does not cause trouble for anyone. Thanks for understanding, I hope... Len

Good. Mea Culpa. I am a writer and very-very sensitive to the misue of others works.
 
I am glad that the misunderstanding is resolved and thank you Rifleman1776 for pointing out that is could have been misinterpreted by people I will try to choose my words more carefully in the future.
Len
 
I have a brotherinlaw that makes knives and stabilizes everyone of his knife scales with heated wood hardner in a jar (much like canning to get vacuum.)
So ,his answer would be all woods.
I have seen his knives and they do seem to have shine built into them from the wood hardner. without adding some kind of finish, just sanding through all the grits and buffing.
 
Hey all I deleted a post I made on here due to the fact that I do not want anyone taking it the wrong way. Hope everyone understands. Thanks Len
 
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