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actually, My money is on the guy selling the Historic Woods blanks through Ed. As i recall one of his rules is that you can't offer pens made from his blanks through places like Farley's because he doesn't want you competing with him.
 
Mike, your right...
Russianwolf said:
actually, My money is on the guy selling the Historic Woods blanks through Ed. As i recall one of his rules is that you can't offer pens made from his blanks through places like Farley's because he doesn't want you competing with him.
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What gives the (pen) its $350 value? The craftanship of the "instrument" itself or the fact that it's the significance of the wood. Who's George Washington anyhow?:wink:
 
Parson said:
http://www.fahrneyspens.com/Item--i-82804

They're selling some rare wood on a CSUSA rollerball kit for $350.00. I'm betting someone here pitched this to them and they bit.

Who was it?
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Randall, from what I can say there were thirteen trees, OK, that makes it Historical, but so they sell them like you can't get your hands on them. what I am not getting is suppose 500 people say they want that pen ( if they are lucky) I don't think CSUSA can produce that many pens. I think items like that belong to special private auction that collectors bet on them. Something about this one sounds fishy.
 
We were one of the group that bought some of those blanks from Ed & Dawn. There were several stipulations in the contract one being that the pens could not be sold for less than $350.00. Not sure how Farney's is getting on with selling them for less. I believe he had something to do with the wording of the contract to limit competition for his site. I know he is the only one that can advertise them and post them on the web. Ed correct me if I am wrong.
 
Mr. Jewell works directly with Fahrneys. Mr. Jewell owns Historical Woods of America--who is the only one authorized to get the wood from the sites he advertises on his website.

As I said in my note that accompanied the "presidential blank" conditions, these blanks cannot be had, unless under an agreement with Mr. Jewell. It (the wood) is HIS football. He makes the pens for Fahrneys and his arrangement with them is HIS bailiwick.

I don't think any of the folks who BOUGHT these blanks have any desire to reduce their prices below the $395 level. It is also unlikely that any of our group will "run into" Fahrneys at one of our venues.

I do still have a limited number of blanks available and our relationship with Mr Jewell and Historical Woods of America remains unchanged. What he does with Fahrney's is outside my control.
 
I appreciate the significance of the wood, the thirteen trees for the thirteen colonies, etc., etc, etc, etc..

I just don't think I could get $350 for a WOODEN pen on SOLID 14K gold in my market. In my market ($100 -500), acrylic, bone, casein, bakelite, ebonite or ANYTHING other than wood brings a better price. I sell 10 "other" pens for every wood pen....AND that includes the BOW "Fishers of Men" pens I sell to preachers for $65 each.

I guess I need "wood pen marketing". I don't do very well with wood. I do great with casein and bakelite.
 
Thanks for the clarification Ed. I knew some of it but not all. My Dawn handled most of the transaction with you. I am just the grunt that makes the pens.... lol I am not allowed to touch or seriously consider what it done with "money."

And as for : "I just don't think I could get $350 for a WOODEN pen on SOLID 14K gold in my market." That is a shame. My stuff ranges in price from $5-10 for a fan pull (my scrap) to the lowest price pen on my table is $25.00 and goes up to $1500 for some Andrea Doria blanks that I got from Ed & Dawn. I haven't sold one of the Andrea Doria yet but I assure you I will. I am moving them in the $225 to 500 range.

A fellow turner in the area does not have anything on his table under $350 and he does GREAT!

You just have to appeal to everyone's purse. Serious pen collectors don't much care about price it is the quality and the uniqueness that they are after.
 
Price fixing

Cindylee said:
We were one of the group that bought some of those blanks from Ed & Dawn. There were several stipulations in the contract one being that the pens could not be sold for less than $350.00. Not sure how Farney's is getting on with selling them for less. I believe he had something to do with the wording of the contract to limit competition for his site. I know he is the only one that can advertise them and post them on the web. Ed correct me if I am wrong.
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Hmmmm....has the ring of illegal price fixing to me. Not that I care (I can't make a pen worth that much anyway so it doesn't affect me), but almost any agreement between anyone to fix prices runs afoul of the antitrust laws of the USA if so that contract clause would be unenforceable.
 
I met Farnehs at a pen show. They seem like nice people. I can't manage to fetch prices like that on wood pens regardless where the wood comes from either, but if they can do it, all the more power to them! The people in this state can't afford a Bic. :curse:
 
I live in Fredericksburg. I think I am going out tonight to chop down that chestnut tree. Lol. We had some heavy snows here this winter I think that is how this wood was released for sale. It would be interesting to be friends with the grounds keepers up there.
 
People that buy pens from Farneys are collectors or close to it. They probably own 5 or more high end pens.

You know, it costs more to make the box and run the ads than it does to fill it up with fruit loops. The historic woods thing is mostly box and high end collectors like that sort of thing. I guess.
 
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