what is bakelite?

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I didn't want to crowd mrburls thread, but it did get me thinking. what is bakelite? why is it rare? why cant we make more? what was it used for?
sorry but i still dont know the answers to these questions but i like the look of the stuff, just wanted to know why id be dropping thirty bucks on a blank:)
 
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ok i read the wiki, it says it is still manufactured, just not as much, it listed rod form as one of the modern products. why dont we use these? why buy the expensive vintage stuff besides sentimental purposes?
 
As with any material, there is an economy of scale curve of manufacturing costs vs quantity. The simple version is that if you can sell enough of any one thing, you can set up to manufacture it for a relatively low cost above materials. But, if you only need to make a little bit of something, the per unit cost is going to be fairly high. This applies (broadly, and with exceptions) to just about anything from jacobs drill chucks to obsolete composite materials.

Take a material like corian. It's not easy to make either, maybe not as difficult as bakelite, or maybe it is, but the thing is that you can sell thousands of square feet of it for countertops, so that drops the per unit cost down to the point that we often sell the stuff by 30 pound boxes for small money. Now there is not much demand for bakelite anymore, all the everyday items that used to be made with it are MUCH cheaper to make out of modern thermoplastics. So the market for it is limited to specialty artistic type stuff like making pens and such. Not going to sell thousands of pounds of a single color just for that, so the production costs for modern material are astronomical.

That's why it's often cheaper (and more fun) to find a stash of 50 year old material somewhere and snag it.

In a very simplified and broadly applied way, YMMV!
 
Bakelite

Bakelite has gone somewhat out of fashion in consumer products because there are cheaper plastics that do many of the same jobs just as well. It is still a great insulator and as such has a lot of uses in electrical and electronic applications. When I was young nearly all telephones were Bakelite and many radios had a molded baklite case. Phenalics (bakelite was the first phenalic) are still fairly common for certain applications.
 
Bakelite is relatively inexpensive...

Then add all the associated costs to get it to you and the cost increases dramatically. Then there is the fact of minimum orders and the order has to be all one size and one color. Not to mention... it has to prepayed and takes several months before it's even shipped.

I work with a lady that goes home for Christmas and is able to get a few rods of different colors. She has been kind enough to offer to bring some back for me at the first of the year. And only a few dollars a piece.
 
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