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I've actually been very pleased with my experiences with vistaprint, though i did see the offers that most of the complaints are about and they are deceiving. I make sure to check for the fine print and have avoided getting pulled into them. I don't think it is totally vistaprint's fault, but at the same time, they wouldn't have any scandal on their hands if they were honest and up front about the details of their offers. I think people on both sides of this need to be more responsible; the company for being honest to their customers and the customers for being cognizant of what they are agreeing to beforehand. Rant over.
 
I ordered some of their 'free' cards and gave my credit card number to pay for the shipping. Then I noticed $14.95 monthly charges against my account for "membership" I had never agreed to. When I called they immediately credited it back to me but wouldn't say they would stop until I demanded, in writing, that they would stop. They did then send an e-mail and discontinued the account. But, for weeks I was snowed under with spam e-mail advertising. That took some doing to put an end to also. Never again.
 
Originally posted by gerryr
<br />How can a company with what certainly looks like a history of fraud be allowed to remain in business?
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Unfortunately, I think this is a growing mode of doing business in today's society (penturning vendors excepted). As sad as it may be, we all need to remember the old adage "Buyer beware".
 
Something I've been saying for years regarding VistaPrint.

Information is currency. You've just handed it all over for what...a handful of business cards?

Now they have your name, your phone number, your email address your physical address.....

VistaPrint knows that their revenue stream can consist of more than just laying ink on paper.

None of this should come as a surprise.

Nothing is free.




Originally posted by jthompson1995
<br />I don't think it is totally vistaprint's fault, but at the same time, they wouldn't have any scandal on their hands if they were honest and up front about the details of their offers.
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Not their fault that they are not honest and up front?[:D][:D][:D] Too Funny!
 
Originally posted by Ron in Drums PA
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None of this should come as a surprise.

Nothing is free.
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So true.

Originally posted by Ron in Drums PA
Originally posted by jthompson1995
<br />I don't think it is totally vistaprint's fault, but at the same time, they wouldn't have any scandal on their hands if they were honest and up front about the details of their offers.
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Not their fault that they are not honest and up front?[:D][:D][:D] Too Funny!
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LOL [:D]
 
Originally posted by Ron in Drums PA
Originally posted by jthompson1995
<br />I don't think it is totally vistaprint's fault, but at the same time, they wouldn't have any scandal on their hands if they were honest and up front about the details of their offers.
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Not their fault that they are not honest and up front?[:D][:D][:D] Too Funny!
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I meant that the turmoil over people unwittingly signing up for other things that were unclear, though it may have come across in a different way. I totally beleive businesses should be honest and up front with people, and I make a point to work for and do business with companies that are as often I can. Maybe it's just because of my ingrained mistrust of people until they prove me otherwise, but I still beleive everyone need to be aware of what they are signing up for and who they are doing business with and not blatantly trust everyone as trying to help them. Let's just say I've been burned, too, but not by vistaprint (yet, hopefully never).
 
While I recognize that a number of folks have had negative experiences with VistaPrint, I have been using them since the late '90s with not a single problem. The price charged has been the exact amount I agreed to. Of course, I am meticulous about unchecking opt-in boxes and checking opt-out boxes, I do not apply for any special "rebates" and always read the fine print. I've ordered thousands of business cards, brochures and postcards from them and always received top-notch service. A word to the wise. Do not pay for expedited shipping unless you REALLY need it. I find that I receive their products in about a week even when using the slowest delivery. YMMV.
 
Originally posted by DCBluesman
<br />I am meticulous about unchecking opt-in boxes and checking opt-out boxes,
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For a person who is literate this shouldn't be a problem. But there are those among us who have problems operating a mouse properly.

Wouldn't it be less deceitful if all the boxes where unchecked and if you wanted something you would actually have to opt-in?
 
Ron, that would be nice. however, most ANY website you go to pretty much does the same thing in that they have the boxes checked for you and you have to opt out. Otherwise, how are they ever going to get any info as people don't even bother touching those boxes most times.

I think what gets me even more than checking or unchecking boxes is that I have to sign up at the Pepsi, Coke, Taco Bell, McDonalds etc websites to see if their "gamepieces" are winners. Nothing like giving them personal information just to see if I have "won" a prize. [:(!]
 
I have ordered many times from VistaPrint and have never had any problems. But then again, I read everything carefully before clicking or signing my name.
 
Ad me to the list that uses vista print regularly. I order postcards to send to my customers and they have always been perfect. Used their free business cards when I was moving and needed a few with the temporary address. I always decline all the free offers at the end of my order because when I read the fine print it usually includes a subscription to something.
There are unfortunately many other retail sites that do the same thing. Read before you clic and all should be good. At least it has been for me for several years and many orders.
 
Well, add me in here.. I LOVE my cards I got from them and it appears most of the issues are with the "add ons and free cards" I paid for mine because I used their templates to design mine. I guess it's a put on the blinders to the free stuff and watch you CC. Like my mama used to say, "nuthin's free in life son..." [;)]


FYI, this was one of their stock photos and it's PERFECT for us pen turners. I "think" it was under the leagal section. These high gloss cards were a fraction of the cost of the cheapest junk in a local store.

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hundreds of people vs millions maybe?? Thanks but no thanks! [:D] Although, a laywer from Nigeria might just of needed that info to get ahold of me because he needs help getting 60 kabillion dollars out of his country!!
 
Originally posted by Ron in Drums PA
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Originally posted by DCBluesman
<br />I am meticulous about unchecking opt-in boxes and checking opt-out boxes,
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For a person who is literate this shouldn't be a problem. But there are those among us who have problems operating a mouse properly.

Wouldn't it be less deceitful if all the boxes where unchecked and if you wanted something you would actually have to opt-in?
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Ron,

Both you and I know that it happens all the time. The website you refer to is also slanted. Perhaps a better indicator would be to go the the better business bureau website and check them out there. Look at the amount of claims that have been closed in the last 12 months.I would be willing to bet that a majority of the claims on the site you mentioned are from folks who might have filed a claim with the BBB and it did not go their way.

I ordered some free cards from them 4 months ago and there is a membership box at the checkout that is already checked and if you don't then you have agreed to their membership plan. You will only see this box if you order the free cards so anyone who tells you there was no box there is misleading you. BTW: I have not been charged the membership fee. Do you think they they would have been in business since 1999 without being sued for fraud if they charged you and not had the checkbox? Have you looked at any other larger size business on that site?
 
I have used them a few times over the years and have always recieved what was promised and on time, they have the best interface around for desiging on-line print stuff, and allow many custom options for a decent price.

I have never been ripped by them, and o the best of my knowldge no SPAM email or other from different sources connected.

This been said, they do TRY to get you to sign up to one of their offers, and to buy extra stuff for high prices, they try VERY HARD... and they decided to take the root of doing it a bit slimy. But if you tread carefully through the buying process (as I do with any online vendor, and even regular vendor) and just pay attention to what's being asked, you wont fall in the pit holes. Another bad thing is shipping costs which are way high (I think it was $10-14 or so) - but that is also a known way of making money on top of a sale (see many eBay sellers)
Another vendor that tries to do an upsale is godaddy, those of you who have an website might know the name, they also try to sell you many more things, but it is done in a much more straightforward way, the button for continuing is on the BOTTOM, and there is always the option to say "No Thanks" (there is actualy a button to do that, no need to uncheck anything).
 
I use VistaPrint and have had no trouble with them,
you just need to read everything as you check out.
Nothing is ever free. Oh I just hate the daily spam I get now!

The cards were great!
 
Same good experience here. Got the free cards and never got charge a penny more than they stated for shipping up front. Guess I fall into that read the fine print, cause free generally ain't free crowd.

Drew
 
In the networking world TANSTAAFL was a common acronym: There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

If someone is giving you "free" anything, you need to look hard and figure out just how they are making money on their free give-away. If you can't find anything else, they are selling your personal information.

I once signed up for a pay-by-the-month website. Everything was fine until that website cancelled their contract with the company collecting the funds. The next week I started getting 350-600 spams a day using the email address I had setup just to register with that site. I cancelled my account and then closed the email address.

My son signed up for "free ring tones" on a web site. He got so much spam we had to close that email account. Again, it was an alias so it wasn't too painful. But it was a good learning lesson because he had just picked that alias and thought it was really cool. He hadn't ever sent or received a single real message from/to it but he was getting over 1000 spams a week.

And, there is a hint for you. If your mail company allows you to create aliases, create a new one for each "questionable" site that wants your contact info. Then you just kill that alias if there is a problem and stop doing business with the slimers. Or, just create ONE dummy address to catch the spam. Easier to manage but then you never know who gave away your info. My wife uses NOYB@, aka None Of Your Business.

GK


GK
 
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