Triton Respirators

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Bellsy

Bellsy

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I contacted my local dealer about purchasing a Triton Respirator and I was told this today....

"Quote...Triton Australia has been bought by another company. There has been no production of any Triton products for the past 4 months so there are no units anywhere. Apparently there was a new investor and new product development underway and production is supposed to begin in June which means there should be units available by August."

I seem to have developed an allergic reaction (type of dermatitis) to CA glue. Whether it's the fumes or the dust, either way I will not be using it until I find a suitable respirator. The dust mask is just not good enough.

There are a few other respirators available, but I will have to seek these as a solution.

Bellsy
 
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Thanks guys. I did find them at Amazon and I also found them here in Canada at Busy Bee Tools. I will call them first thing in the morning to see if they are available at the nearest dealer.

I have stopped using the CA for 3 days and symptoms have subsided @ 75% with the use of HC Uremol Skin Cream recommended by my physician.

http://www.healthyontario.com/DrugDetails.aspx?brand_id=1900&brand_name=Uremol HC

I am thinking it is more of a dust problem versus the fumes from the CA glue itself. Until I get something better it's "hands off" the CA. I will use the other finishes available in my shop for the time being.
 
Dave,

I would refer you to remarks by Russ Fairfield. He is allergic to exotic hardwoods, so he simply eliminated them from his shop. I like a nice CA finish, but if it did to me what you described, epoxy would be my glue and Unoxal, lacquer and poly would be my finishes.
 
Warning...science content ahead:eek:

If it is the fumes from the CA that is giving you the problems, the Triton respirator is not going to help with that. It is specifically designed for dust (a particulate filter) and not for fumes (organics, etc.) The Triton web page specifically excludes protection from gases, fumes, etc. http://www.triton.com.au/product.php?id=29 at the bottom of the page.

For fume control from CA, polyester resins, and many of the other nasty odors we deal with, you need to use a respirator that has cartridges that will absorb the chemical compounds as they pass through. They put different materials in the cartridges to absorb different chemicals. For CA glue, you need cartridges that are rated for "Organic Vapors", commonly marked as "OV". The common paint respirators at Lowes/HD that have the cartridges are this type, but check the label to make sure it the right type. Using the wrong type of cartridge might reduce the fumes some, but not enough to help your problem. Fortunately OV cartridges are probably the most common type you will find.

I looked in the Grainger catalog under Respiratory Protection and they have several pages of options including partial and full face respirators. In their current catalog (viewable online from their website), it starts on page 2155. Take a look at the options on page 2161 for the 3M series 7000 that is a full face with continuous airflow similar to what the Triton does. There are also several other options on that page with different price points. If the fumes are also bothering your eyes, a full face respirator would be the best option.

If you don't have a business account with Grainger, their prices are pretty high, but they have a good selection and technical info to help you decide. Then you can search the web or locally for better pricing.

BTW -- I pulled this info from the MSDS sheets that I found on the web for various CA brands. ETHYL CYANOACRYLATE and Methyl methacrylate (Methacrylic acid, methyl ester) are the two common chemicals in the glues. I used the "3M 2009 Respirator Selection Guide" from the 3M site to check what class of cartridge to use.

I hope that this helps you breath easier and feel better-
Chris
 
I have the same problem. After using CA for a year I developed a allergy to it now I cant get near CA glue or I will have a bad skin reaction. I have been using 2-part epoxy with no problems. Good luck : Joe
 
rodsaw said:
Warning...science content ahead:eek:

If it is the fumes from the CA that is giving you the problems, the Triton respirator is not going to help with that. It is specifically designed for dust (a particulate filter) and not for fumes (organics, etc.) The Triton web page specifically excludes protection from gases, fumes, etc. http://www.triton.com.au/product.php?id=29 at the bottom of the page.

For fume control from CA, polyester resins, and many of the other nasty odors we deal with, you need to use a respirator that has cartridges that will absorb the chemical compounds as they pass through. They put different materials in the cartridges to absorb different chemicals. For CA glue, you need cartridges that are rated for "Organic Vapors", commonly marked as "OV". The common paint respirators at Lowes/HD that have the cartridges are this type, but check the label to make sure it the right type. Using the wrong type of cartridge might reduce the fumes some, but not enough to help your problem. Fortunately OV cartridges are probably the most common type you will find.

I looked in the Grainger catalog under Respiratory Protection and they have several pages of options including partial and full face respirators. In their current catalog (viewable online from their website), it starts on page 2155. Take a look at the options on page 2161 for the 3M series 7000 that is a full face with continuous airflow similar to what the Triton does. There are also several other options on that page with different price points. If the fumes are also bothering your eyes, a full face respirator would be the best option.

If you don't have a business account with Grainger, their prices are pretty high, but they have a good selection and technical info to help you decide. Then you can search the web or locally for better pricing.

BTW -- I pulled this info from the MSDS sheets that I found on the web for various CA brands. ETHYL CYANOACRYLATE and Methyl methacrylate (Methacrylic acid, methyl ester) are the two common chemicals in the glues. I used the "3M 2009 Respirator Selection Guide" from the 3M site to check what class of cartridge to use.

I hope that this helps you breath easier and feel better-
Chris
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Chris...Thanks for the science lecture....seriously.

I followed some advice from a fellow pen turner on another forum about NIOSH and your advice with 3M. 3M has an online software program to help people determine a suitable respirator for whatever environment they are exposed to. However you do have to know a little bit about what your working with to use it. I did manage to find a respirator that is suitable, but it does not protect my eyes from the fumes. There is however a respirator that does, but the price is expensive. The other alternative option was to use down draft ventilation, thereby keeping the fumes out of your eyes. My take on the eyes is that the high concentration of fumes (irritation) could be absorbed through them, the MSDS on CA does not state any information about absorbtion through the eyes. According to 3M the proper cartridge for OV is a 6001. I am going to try the 3M Spray Paint Respirator (R6211C/07178 Medium) which is available at Home Depot. (in Canada) I am also going to try the down draft ventilation as well. If this does not work out, I will consider the full face respirator or resort to other products for pen making.

Thanks

Dave
 
I purchased one of the Triton units, and I got to tell you, I was EXTREMELY dissapointed in the product. The optical quality of the plastic on the visor is just about as good as a plastic bottle that you would buy from the grocery store. If you are roughing out a bowl, and dont need to see anything but an 11 inch spinning round thingy, it is good enough. If you want to turn pens or see anything that is smaller than the 11 inches, I would recommend going with another product. After one hour of "fighting" the optical poor quality of the unit, I had a headache that was brutal from all the distortion the lens had.....Just my two cents. Other than that everything on it worked great....
 
rodsaw said:
Warning...science content ahead:eek:

If it is the fumes from the CA that is giving you the problems, the Triton respirator is not going to help with that. It is specifically designed for dust (a particulate filter) and not for fumes (organics, etc.) The Triton web page specifically excludes protection from gases, fumes, etc. http://www.triton.com.au/product.php?id=29 at the bottom of the page.

For fume control from CA, polyester resins, and many of the other nasty odors we deal with, you need to use a respirator that has cartridges that will absorb the chemical compounds as they pass through. They put different materials in the cartridges to absorb different chemicals. For CA glue, you need cartridges that are rated for "Organic Vapors", commonly marked as "OV". The common paint respirators at Lowes/HD that have the cartridges are this type, but check the label to make sure it the right type. Using the wrong type of cartridge might reduce the fumes some, but not enough to help your problem. Fortunately OV cartridges are probably the most common type you will find.

I looked in the Grainger catalog under Respiratory Protection and they have several pages of options including partial and full face respirators. In their current catalog (viewable online from their website), it starts on page 2155. Take a look at the options on page 2161 for the 3M series 7000 that is a full face with continuous airflow similar to what the Triton does. There are also several other options on that page with different price points. If the fumes are also bothering your eyes, a full face respirator would be the best option.

If you don't have a business account with Grainger, their prices are pretty high, but they have a good selection and technical info to help you decide. Then you can search the web or locally for better pricing.

BTW -- I pulled this info from the MSDS sheets that I found on the web for various CA brands. ETHYL CYANOACRYLATE and Methyl methacrylate (Methacrylic acid, methyl ester) are the two common chemicals in the glues. I used the "3M 2009 Respirator Selection Guide" from the 3M site to check what class of cartridge to use.

I hope that this helps you breath easier and feel better-
Chris
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Just FYI, My Triton came with chemical filters. Whether they are the ones you describe above, I don't know
 
Rojo22 said:
I purchased one of the Triton units, and I got to tell you, I was EXTREMELY dissapointed in the product. The optical quality of the plastic on the visor is just about as good as a plastic bottle that you would buy from the grocery store. If you are roughing out a bowl, and dont need to see anything but an 11 inch spinning round thingy, it is good enough. If you want to turn pens or see anything that is smaller than the 11 inches, I would recommend going with another product. After one hour of "fighting" the optical poor quality of the unit, I had a headache that was brutal from all the distortion the lens had.....Just my two cents. Other than that everything on it worked great....
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Rojo22
I had a similiar issue with a full face respirator a while back. It was murder to see through. When I tried one of my co workers his was clear and no problems. I found on that unit (it was an MSA brand) there was a very thin "clear" film on the face plate. None of the others seemed to have it but on mine the film was there. Once removed the problems were gone. This may not be the issue with the Triton but might be worth checking. It was not immediatly apparent that the film was there and it was a little difficult to get an edge free to peal the film off.
 
VisExp said:
My eyes are very sensitive to CA and I had pretty much given up on using it as a finish. I set up a wall mounted dust collector behind my lathe and it draws the fumes away. I can now use CA as a finish without my eyes hurting.

http://syzygypens.com/blog/?p=404
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Yep; I put a 4" dust collector hose right behind the blank. Picks up a lot of the shavings from turning, and all the sanding dust and CA fumes.
 
I also have a Triton and it did come with a protective film on the faceplate. As for the filters not being rated against fumes that is true however since the air intake is behind my back and lower than the pen blank I am working on I have not had any problems with CA fumes. In my case CA gives me a bloody nose and that doesn't happen when I use the respirator. My only complaint is the airflow is MUCH less than I would like in the summer so I find myself raising the visor every chance I get which means I'm still being exposed to the wood dust. One of these days I'm going to rig up my own high powered air supply for it
 
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