beck3906
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Do tariffs apply if I buy something from William Woodwrite in Canada?
Curly is correct, that is definitely a more accurate interpretation of what has done by the powers that be in the USASorry Rick that isn't true. Your leader initiated tariffs. He broke the trade agreements he approved and signed off on in his last term between Mexico, Canada and the US. We are applying tariffs in response. Your leader is going to apply tariffs to all countries everywhere whether they have any in place or not. They will in turn respond in the same way. We don't want the tariffs and neither do any of the other countries the US trades with but that is what your government wants to do. The tariffs are going to hurt everyone in both our countries.
Maxwell, I agree with you. I don't think a discussion about the impact of tariffs on us as penturners is political. I think it's squarely within the scope of what this forum is about and fair game for discussion here.In my opinion, I don't think that a discussion about how your newly created tariffs are going to affect you, as American purchasers, is truly political. I think it's a discussion that lets you plan for how these randomly and arbitrarily created tariffs will have real-world implications for you in your daily activities as pen-turners - and this discussion thread was about a real-world question on the application of the random out-of-the-blue tariffs.
It's also a fluid situation, as the USMCA free trade agreement is technically still in effect, so it's a new and constantly changing situation. By the normal rules of the established trade agreements, there shouldn't be any tariffs - and these new tariff announcements have been rather confusing. That being the case, knowing how the new moving goalposts will affect purchasers and pen-turners is probably going to be a moving target - so non-political direct responses to these questions is not a bad idea, in my mind.
If you disagree, I'm happy to have a conversation about that!
The point about why the IAP restricts discussion of politics is that this is a pen-turning forum. Politics are divisive - especially lately - and there's almost no chance that political discussions remain civil.
Regarding your point about Trump-themed pen blanks - we tend to prefer using a soft touch - so unless the thread gets overtly policy political, or people complain, I'd say that selling a pen blank that supports either of your political parties or laws like your second amendment isn't an a priori political discussion. Again, happy to have a conversation if you disagree - please send me a PM if you'd like to talk about it! In the end, it's up to Jeff, as it's his site!
Don't worry. It'll only be for a time and both parties will agree to a complete free trade agreement.Do tariffs apply if I buy something from William Woodwrite in Canada?
I am equally confident no one in Washington cares what happens to me.
Thank you Jeff! This is the most equal and unbiased decision by an Admin/Owner anywhere.This thread has been reported a few times, so let me address a few points:
The Acceptable Use Policy says "Discussions of politics and religion are not allowed." That has been our policy for almost 20 years. We used to allow both topics, and deep in the archives out of public view there are numerous threads containing heated discussions with vicious personal attacks that serve not to understand and consider other people's viewpoints, but to divide us into groups that despise each other.
We even tried setting up an opt-in forum section dedicated to political and religious discussions, the idea being that it would give us a place to debate, but be out of the view of those who desired not to see it. That failed miserably. The hard feelings between people who were "debating" (or "at each others throats" in some cases) spilled over to the general forums. People would get all fired up in the back room discussion forum, then explode at each other over which CA was the best.
Regarding images of blanks with political and religious themes. The key word in the AUP is "discussions", so we have allowed blanks and pens with political and religious images to be advertised and posted.
The discussion above is right on the edge of what I'd consider general political discussions, but let's leave it alone for the moment. These are very practical issues for people who trade across borders and I think there is some value in the discussion.
I'm on pool forum that allows political discussions. The members take it to the line where they are banned or repeatedly warned. I do not want to know what side anyone is on.. I lose respect. I stopped posting or logging on for a while.This might get me kicked off this website but so be it. Don't see any point in being involved with an organization that is afraid of free speech when it directly impacts what we do as pen turners and woodworkers.
Discussing is appropriate. As for myself nobody I know agrees with each other so what is the point. Once again and my last on this. Not here. My shop and IAP are quiet zones. I like everyone here. I have no issues. I do not want to know anyones politics. Vote and go back to turning.What started our great Nation was the fact that they did discuss politics and religion. In the past 50 years not talking about them has caused more problems.