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I was thumbing through the latest edition of crafts Supplies USA catalog and noticed they adertise the heck out of a new glue called Sumo Glue. Has anyone used this glue and if so can you give a little report on it and tell us the likes and dislikes. Is it the glue of choice now??? Thanks

John T.
 
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I have been using Sumo glue for about 2 months now. I only use it to glue the brass tubes into blanks. It has its advantages and disadvantages. First, it foams some. Not as much as Gorilla glue but there still is some foaming. 2nd, it takes longer to cure. I try and plan ahead. I prep the night before and turn the next day. It is not as easy to apply. The glue is thick. Now to the good stuff. Much longer work time. I have not had one brass tube get stuck partially into a blank – think CA cured way to fast in some of the oily woods. When working with acrylics that I had painted the inside of, it did not dissolve paint like CA does. Also, none of the brass tubes have come lose when working with acrylics. No bad smells. Although it does make a mess when it gets on fingers, the glue does not stick fingers together. on a side note, I have not blown apart any pens on the lathe since I switched. Not sure if it is because of practice and improved skills or the glue. I plan on continuing to use sumo glue.
 
There's only one problen - now almost all glues offer little 'structural' strength. That means that the bond is strong but the glue itself isn't particularily strong. Foaming glues worsen the problem if you're prone to loose fitting tubes. The joint becomes only as strong as the foam, and that isn't very strong at all. If youkeep everything fitting tightly you will be fine.

I prefer strutural epoxy (the stuff that takes a day to set up), but only because I use it for other projects and I don't like a bunch of different glues rolling around.

Marc
 
I started using Sumo glue probably a year ago. I didn't start using it pretty much exclusively until maybe 6 months ago. I've tried Gorilla Glue and, IMO, Sumo Glue is better. I have yet to have a glue failure with it.
 
I use CA for my woods, but I now use SUMO for my acrylics. I have had pretty good luck with it. It is a mess a bit, but I batch up my acrylics. I have them all cut, drilled and paint the inside of the blank.

I then put on cheap, throw away gloves and do them a batch at a time. The only issue I do have, is on rare occasion as it starts to foam, it tries to push out the tube. I make sure to check them as it starts to set (10 minutes)..

Then I let the stuff cure overnight or more. Its slightly white and doesn't eat the paint so it works for me... FYI - I didn't need to order online.. I've seen it at w-mart and some craft stores too.
 
The way that I combated the problem with sumo pushing the tube out is I started putting a rubber bands around the blank to stop the tube from ejecting out. Also, I have had no other problems with sumo on any sub-straight to date.
 
alphageek said:
I use CA for my woods, but I now use SUMO for my acrylics. I have had pretty good luck with it. It is a mess a bit, but I batch up my acrylics. I have them all cut, drilled and paint the inside of the blank.

I then put on cheap, throw away gloves and do them a batch at a time. The only issue I do have, is on rare occasion as it starts to foam, it tries to push out the tube. I make sure to check them as it starts to set (10 minutes)..

Then I let the stuff cure overnight or more. Its slightly white and doesn't eat the paint so it works for me... FYI - I didn't need to order online.. I've seen it at w-mart and some craft stores too.
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I like doing it just the opposite, I prefer polyurethane glues for wood, and used to like 30 minute Epoxy, which I can't find any more, for Acrylic blanks, using polyester dyes in the 5 minute gives about 2-1/2 or 3 minutes working time, So now use 1 hr or just mix enough 5 min. to do one pen, (pretty wasteful) the slower the dry with Epoxy the better adhesion, ande the more flexible the bond is.
 
jttheclockman said:
I was thumbing through the latest edition of crafts Supplies USA catalog and noticed they adertise the heck out of a new glue called Sumo Glue. Has anyone used this glue and if so can you give a little report on it and tell us the likes and dislikes. Is it the glue of choice now??? Thanks

John T.
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They may advertise it but I placed an order back in June and it was back ordered. I placed another order just last week and it was back ordered again.

I love dealing with Craft Supply but hate getting things back ordered. With them, a back order means forget it, your order is going into a big black hole.

Perhaps the gods don't want me to try it! :frown:
 
Well I have to place an order so I may try the 2 ounce size. I have used gorilla glue and that too is a mess.
 
I want to bring this thread back to see if anyone else has tried sumo glue and what do they think of it. I use GG most of the time and usually let it cure overnight, so I would like to get a feel for if sumo glue really cures faster and foams less.
 
I use GG when I am not in a hurry, but with my last big order. I used CA. I like the fact that a polyester glue allows a bit of "flex" while CA is a "rigid" bond. But GG does have a lot of foam, I haven't tired Sumo yet, but a friend of mine did and he was pleased with it.
 
Have used Sumo and like it better than Gorilla, less foaming and not as much movement. It does dry faster and I usually only have to check it once to make sure it has'nt pushed my tube out of the blank. I will wait overnight to turn, just set my self up the night before.
 
I've used both Gorilla and Sumo in various projects, and the Sumo has a thicker "Body" to it, doesn't foam as much. The thing to remember with these type glues is that the foaming part has little strength, it's designed for very minor gap filling. My one complaint about the SUMO is that the stuff is a BEAR to squeeze out of the bottle, especially when it's a bit cool. I think it's a combination of the thicker liquid and the design of the bottle itself.

Just my .02

Steve
 
Sumo Glue bottles are a downside

I'll second the observation of my fellow Tennessean - Sumo glue is a bear to dispense out of their small plastic bottles! (look like a mini-wine barrel with a spout near the rim) And, the tip has a tendency to get plugged shut. I bought both Sumo and Gorilla glue about six months ago to experiment with, and have used them on a bunch of wood blanks. I went to use the Sumo glue earlier this week and it was dried up!

Sumo might be less foaming and quicker dry time, but that durned bottle negates all the positives over Gorilla glue. The ability to apply Gorilla easily out of the bottle should not be overlooked.

They both foam - but it's a non-issue. Just let it dry, and it cuts cleanly off with a knife. It's also easy to clean it out of the brass tubes.

The Gorilla Glue is a bit thinner, and I apply @ 5 lines down a blank, then use one of the little 1/2" throw-away brushes from HF and twist the blank while I spread the glue evenly.

I usually glue tubes/blanks the day before turning, so drying time is not a challenge. And both glues foam, so you have to do clean up on either one. I'd say the ease of application and workability (spreading the glue evenly) becomes the deciding factor for me.!
 
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