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Daniel

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I have been real busy lately. Almost living in my shop night and day. But sadly not making pens and stuff. I have been building an aviary. For those going HUH? that is a place to keep birds so they can fly but not fly away.

I have ordered three of these.
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They are called Grey Jungle Fowl. They are not a chicken but are what the chicken started out as. THey are also the bird that produces the Jungle **** Eye. SO hopefully I will be able to supply feathers that are really hard to find to some of the feather blank makers.

In the mean time I need to learn to incubate eggs, and make sure nothing can get in or out of my cage. So I needed some test subjects that if the security fails and my chickens become a racoon buffet it is not a devastating loss. In looking around at chickens, I descovered that keeping chickens as pets may now be the fastest growing hobby in America. No kidding. One site alone has 50,000 members. One of the real hot "Chicks" to have right now is called the Serama. This little bird comes from Malaysia where they have been breed as pets for centuries. They are a chcicken, but a very small chicken. in fact to qualify as a Serama a Rosster can only be about 20 oz. when it is full grown. that is barely more than 1 Lb. I make pens bigger than that. Well okay that may be stretching it. anyway here is an idea of just how itty bitty they are this is a Serama Egg next to a regular chicken egg.
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I have built two incubators in the last couple of weeks and now have 15 of these cooking. I shoudl know if I get any chicks in about 2 and a half weeks. in the mean time I am gettng all involved in how to control the temperature and humidity of an incubator more accurately and reliably. doing some fiddling with Electronic themostats that need to be dead on accurate at 99.5 degrees.
Thought I would ask any of my techno friends here if they have any good ideas for a thermostat with a remote probe that woudl be accurate to one tenth of a degree at 99.5 degrees f. and have a hysteresis of one tenth of a degree. I could live with .5 degree hysteresis. i would love it to have a digital read out of the temp.
I am also looking for a Hygrometer circuit that is at least reasonably accurate or better yet could be calibrated. again with a digit read out of the Humidity.
I do have to say that hanging out at the other site has really made me miss you all around here. Real help and real friends. those other groups just have no idea what a "Good" group is like. I do drop in every day and just see what is going on. but am actually away from the computer more recently than on it. that is actually a good thing. But I miss all of ya.
I will subscribe to this thread so I don't miss any responses but am likely to forget I even posted it.
I still have to build a hatcher and a brooder, find all the stuff to feed water and otherwise keep the chicks alive. am learning hand over fist all the things that can go wrong and how to recognize it and what to do about it. i am even learning to candle eggs. sort of like loking at X-rays only in this case I am the doctor and have to figure out just what I am seeing. SO far I am real good at knowing when an egg is no good. not so good at knowing they are okay. so my eggs stay in the incubator more because I can't tell they are dead rather than i see something that means they are alive.

Wish me luck. I hope to have a wide variety of feathers eventually. some of them the most valuable feathers i know of.
 
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Good Luck indeed! When I first saw the pic I was immediately reminded of when I used to tie flies :) Some nice material there!
Will you be using the feathers to cast in blanks?
 
Good Luck indeed! When I first saw the pic I was immediately reminded of when I used to tie flies :) Some nice material there!
Will you be using the feathers to cast in blanks?

Lenny, I really want to experiment with some design ideas. I also have an idea or three for bottle stoppers. But I think I will leave the part of actually making my ideas to others. Lots of time involved in the setting down and making lots and lots of anything and that sort of thing just saps the spirit out of me. I like finding new stuff though. that is the sort of thing that makes me want to get out of bed in the morning.
 
amazing. I remember years ago when I was growing up, we had a chicken incubator, and mum and I would have to turn the eggs every night. She would also check them using a lamp to make sure a chick was developing or toss the egg. It was exciting times when they started to hatch. Good luck and can't wait to see the feather sale.
 
Very nice looking Jungle ****. As a fly tyer I can assure you that prime JC capes can fetch a very pretty price. If you ever have any feathers for sale, you might want to go to Fly Angles OnLine (FAOL) to offer your extras. They are a great bunch of folks that will not try to take advantage of you and will offer you good advice. They will almost certainly buy any quality feathers you have.

Thanks for sharing

Jim Smith
 
Daniel! That is so cool! You always amaze me with the different things you are able to master! I hope you have fun! But then I don't think you'd do it if it wasn't fun. Good luck!

Scott.
 
Daniel

Be careful of group buys.

My Neighbor raises some kind of show chicken, they are pretty and fun to watch. Two problems. The hawks and owls love to get the babies. We have seen a rise in rats and mice because of her others having Chickens or Pigeons. City of Sacrament is in the process of changing the ordinance to allow raising of Fowl inside the city limits, don't know if I like that. I know the reason but don't agree with it at all. You will have some beautiful birds what they grow up. Have fun.

Tom
 
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Very cool. It reminds me of being in second grade. We had a small incubator in the class and hatched some eggs. It was pretty exciting.

Jamie
 
Good luck, this looks like it will be very interesting to follow. Please keep us posted and up to date.

Tom/oops99
 
Why did the chicken cross the road?























TO AVOID THE PENMAKER! LOL... neat stuff! Can we see the aviary?
 
Freudian answer. Was there really a road? or do it just imagine there was a road to be crossed?
The devil made it do it answer. It crossed the road because it's mother had once crossed the road.
The 60's Hippi answer. Who Man! It tried some of that weed over there, Had to cross the road cause it thought it saw god. Wow that is some crazy stuff man. It will expend your mind, broaden your horizons. anyone got a Twinkie?
The truth. There was a road but only a dirt road, So nothing to really be proud about crossing. It's mother was already on the other side of it because she had already learned that to the farmer that came to feed them every morning. they where the Twinkie.
Nothing can ever be simple.

The Aviary
It is further along now but this give you the idea of what it looks like
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Why did the chicken cross the road?























TO AVOID THE PENMAKER! LOL... neat stuff! Can we see the aviary?
 
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Tom, If you mean group buys being done on that other site. Don't worry. Not even almost the same atmosphere over there. the mmmmm whatever nasty thing you want to call it, hangs in the air and sort of leaves you feeling slimy after a while. Well I hope that at least paint a picture in your mind of the difference in that group and this one. You see reports every day of one person or another getting ripped off. I did find a real gem of a person to buy my eggs from though, so they do exist. You hae the type that will log on long enough to post an ad for whatever piece of junk they are peddling but never reply to any questions about it etc. then you have the ones that are active. have posts in the social areas and that sort of thing. So not being one to toss the baby out with the bath water I took a chance. turned out to be a good thing. the first batch of eggs had a real bad trip through the mail. the Seller replaced the entire order at her cost including postage. I argued with her until she let me pay her back the postage part. So there are nuggets in the mix but it is still not the same as this group by a long shot. But that is not a slam to that group. this one sets a whole knew standard that most people would laugh at if you told them a group could be like this one is.

Daniel

Be careful of group buys.

My Neighbor raises some kind of show chicken, they are pretty and fun to watch. Two problems. The hawks and owls love to get the babies. We have seen a rise in rats and mice because of her others having Chickens or Pigeons. City of Sacrament is in the process of changing the ordinance to allow raising of Fowl inside the city limits, don't know if I like that. I know the reason but don't agree with it at all. You will have some beautiful birds what they grow up. Have fun.

Tom
 
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