Dale; I have had my Shop Smith for over 40 years and the HSS tools are just as good today as the day they arrived. They may need a little more touching up now and than as opposed to todays metals, but if you know how to sharpen and hone your tools, it's no problem. I also have some Sorbys tools, but that is like compareing apples and oranges. The Sorbys are much longer and heavier and give you a much more in command feel. For my pen work I have a set of mini tools that give you a smaller, much lighter feel for more precise work. I think it all breaks down to the sharpness of the tool your are using. If you are making dust instead of shavings, your tool needs to be rehoned is my moto. Jim S