Sealing labels for casting.

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What is best product to seal labels for casting. I heard Hodge Podge and bought the spray can but it has acetoline and toulene in it. I'm afraid it will attack the adhesive on the label. Any other possibilities. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Dan
 
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i use krylon crystal clear acrylic spray. the same stuff that is called for on waterslide decals. seems to work just fine.
 
I think more important is your printer and paper. I use a photo printer and photo paper. The resin doesn't attack the ink BUT I do give a coat or of thick CA. The only problem I have had was wetting from the ends and the seam. The resin will find it's way into the edge of the paper. That's the only reason I seal with CA.

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Maskman080900 said:
What is best product to seal labels for casting. I heard Hodge Podge and bought the spray can but it has acetoline and toulene in it. I'm afraid it will attack the adhesive on the label. Any other possibilities. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Dan
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I should say I don't use labels. I glue the paper to the tube with Hod Podge. I tried coating with Hod Podge a wile ago it didn't work for me. It works for others I think you need to let it cure a couple days. I give the CA 24 hrs.
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Guess I'm lucky but I use labels, don't seal and have no problems. I tried ModPodge and had a white milky look. If I were to seal I would use CA as Bruce suggested. I think one of the important secrets is patience. I wait for a couple of days each for the paint on the tube to dry, for the ink to dry, for the label adhesive to dry and (if used) for the CA seal coat to dry).
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Don
 
Here's what I use on labels for casting. After wraping the labels in a postitnote for a day to help form it to the tube I coat them with this. It's like a liquid Elmers glue and soaks into the label then dries clear- I use 2 coats. When I cast there are no airbubbles from the label. Just my procedure but it works. Got 2 bottles in 09, and still have just under half on the first one. Also, the color is not reduced with this but I use the 2x4 Avery labels that says "Vivid color and sharp text". The regular ones are dull looking.

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its_virgil said:
Guess I'm lucky but I use labels, don't seal and have no problems. I tried ModPodge and had a white milky look. If I were to seal I would use CA as Bruce suggested. I think one of the important secrets is patience. I wait for a couple of days each for the paint on the tube to dry, for the ink to dry, for the label adhesive to dry and (if used) for the CA seal coat to dry).
Do a good turn daily!
Don
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Don,

Do you pre-wet the label seam before you pour in resin. I had failure around the seam.
 
bruce119 said:
I think more important is your printer and paper. I use a photo printer and photo paper. The resin doesn't attack the ink BUT I do give a coat or of thick CA. The only problem I have had was wetting from the ends and the seam. The resin will find it's way into the edge of the paper. That's the only reason I seal with CA.

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Bruce,

Is your photo paper self-adhesive? Photo paper is usually thick. Is there a problem keeping the seam from wanting to "stick up"?

Dan
 
I too, use CA to seal the label once it is wrapped around the tube. But you must give it at least a day to outgas before casting. Now i have learned that that process can be sped up by placing the tubes in the toaster oven for around half an hour at 160 degrees. Not really sure how it works, but if i am in a hurry, that is the route i go. And my Tru-Quarter blanks turn out flawless this way. One thing to remember though if you use this method. When the glue is dried, there will be some overhang of the label on each end of the tube that will get trimmed off before casting. Be sure to seal those ends with thin CA as well or you will have what looks like a wetting(so to speak) of the label on either end, therefore creating more work and re-casting. just my .02 worth
 
Bruce,

Is your photo paper self-adhesive? Photo paper is usually thick. Is there a problem keeping the seam from wanting to "stick up"?

Dan
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No not self adhesive unfortunately HP doesn't have photo labels. I use a HP photosmart the paper is there presentation paper. It's 32lb weight. I would like thiner but it is photo. The thing with a HP photo printer is you have to use there paper to get the true water proof photo quality it is a chemical in the paper that reacts with there ink.

After gluing my paper to the tube w/modpodg and when ever possible avoid straight line cuts (they stand out like a sore thumb) I will burnish (rub) the seam down with a pop stick. Then apply CA being sure to leave some on the ends.
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Thank you guys for helping me out. I will try several methods and stick with the one that works for my application. Additional comments always welcome.

dan
 
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