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hunter-27

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Due to a rash of horrible communications and arrogant posts from a certain "group" (I will refrain from mentioning specifics, they now who they are). I decided to take a step back from IAP. Well after a short time away I have calmed down and decided that the benefit of communications with my IAP friends, far outweighs the problems with egotistical attitudes of the previously mentioned "group"(if you think the shoe fits, it probably does, if you don't feel you are part of this group, you most likely are not). Thanks to all who took the time out from their busy lives to PM me with their thoughts and concerns for the situation. I do not want this to turn into a rant BUT................. I only want to say this, I do not claim to be anywhere near the level of a turner as many of the members here, I do feel I can offer help to some at times and will continue to do so. Some of the "Super Turners" will be the first to step up and help others out if they need it, on the flip side of that are the "Super Turners" who would rather ridicule the what, why, and how of those who do not share the same views of a given situation. The later is the reason for my recent dissappearance. Now I'm sure there are those who couldn't care less about me or this post, I'm fine with that, simply do not read it and go about your business. I feel this is one of the biggest problems in our IAP family right now. If you don't like something that is presented, you really have several choices. You can report the post if you feel it violates the rules, you can jump on the "dogpile", you can engage the thread with courtesy and facts, or if none of the above suit you, simply move along quietly to the next thread of interest to you. Ok, I've said my piece, I'm done justifying myself to those who don't really care anyway. In summary, thank you to all my IAP friends who helped me see why I should continue to visit the site, thanks to Jeff and Curtis for all they do. Sure I have and will again, probably disagree with how something gets done in the future. The difference will be in how I handle myself in that situation. I think most of the rest of the members should think about that statement as well for the betterment of the IAP community. Thanks to those who took the time to read this. Thanks to those who may not agree with or even care about this thread but simply moved on without a word being said(or typed).

Landon
 
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I'm very glad you are back Landon! (and that is after I read the whole post:wink:).
 
Landon,

Don't worry yourself about what others think or say. This place is fantastic because of people like you who are always willing to help others. I for one, have always appreciated your help. There is always going to be the negative people who do nothing but complain.

Jason
 
As one of IAP's longest standing members told me not too long ago in a PM,
"There is more than just one new annoying member. The best thing I can say about these folks is they usually quiet down or leave within about 6 months. In terms of "the old days", again, I see a migration that happens consistently over the years. Life gets in the way, interest in the hobby wanes, etc. Fortunately, each year generally adds a couple of new and interesting folks."

I too was questioning my return after just one short month. Fortunately like you Landon, I see the benefits out weighing the annoyances put forth by the persistent few. I am always looking for the next design idea or "Better" way of doing things. Four years into turning and I am still learning tricks and techniques I should have been using the first year. People on here share a wealth of expertise that goes a long way towards enhancing our skills as well as the hobby. For now I am learning, for the most part, just to keep my mouth shut. If a post does not agree with me I will ignore it. If for some reason a post disturbs me I have some wonder friends here on IAP that I can discuss it with outside of the box to keep from loosing my composer.

Welcome back Landon.
 
Landon, I'm glad you changed your mind, guys like you are the reason the IAP is here, Not just to support the "super egos of some turners"
And yes I think they know who they are, I thought I would like to be in that clique some day, but I out grew that some time ago, now I just does what I likes and devil take the hind most!! good to see you back friend!!! and actually I'm not so sure that certain folks we discussed are really all that great, they're good but far from great.
 
I find my time here much more enjoyable since discovering the joy of the IGNORE function. I enjoy the company and education i get, but can tune out those that I know are more likely to increase my blood pressure than my knowledge!
 
I'm not exactly sure what drove you off, but I'm glad you are back. I hate to see people leave the site. Sometimes I don't even notice that someone is "gone" until someone else points it out, but that doesn't mean that I don't care. I feel like I have learned something from just about everyone on this site, no matter how small that something might be. I even learn from those that I disagree with on certain matters. There will always be arguments and bickering, we'll never all get along. Sometimes it gets annoying. Sometimes I even get caught up is the "debates".
Anyway, again, welcome back. I must say, it's hard to stay away from this site and the members who make this site what it is!!
 
Landon,
You've heard "Beauty is only skin deep!!"

Well, I've come to realize "Internet friendships are easily broken". There are some folks who have been my "friends" until I did or did not do exactly what THEY perceive I should. At which point, all the things they once admired disappear and my great big "pimple" is all they choose to see.

Do I miss them? Yes, I still consider them quality people. But, I can easily avoid their threads, since I know my mere existence irritates them.

So, should I leave?? NO!! And neither should they.

Good people can disagree---if I know I irritate someone, I will avoid directing comments to or at them.

It's a big site, peacefully co-exist.

Certainly DON'T allow someone else to deprive YOU of the friendships that remain!!! We (I hope I am among your friends) enjoy your company.

So, if some believe there are cliques in the IAP, perhaps they are correct. Those who don't like me exchange emails and that's fine. I exchange emails with several friends, so we are "closer" than some others. Are these cliques? Or "circles of friends"?

Enjoy the "virtual company" of those who wish to be your "friends". Avoid antagonizing those who prefer NOT being friendly.

And, whenever possible, make knowledgeable comments on pen turning. The vast majority of the members and guests will appreciate and respect your input.

What else matters??
 
Landon , glad to see you changed your mind , we need you here . There are always going to be people who we don't agree with , but they are in the minority here . The main thing to remember is that there are far more people we feel are like family and those are the people that bring us back . Welcome back my friend .
 
Landon, I just found this and must apologize. I've been a little busy at home and not around here to see everything going on. If I had seen the problem I would have emailed you to give my support. I am glad you've decided to stick around. I enjoy you comments and value your opinions. You have been a good friend. As said above, your one of the good guys here.
 
Certainly DON'T allow someone else to deprive YOU of the friendships that remain!!! We (I hope I am among your friends) enjoy your company.
Thanks Ed, this is why I decided to do what I did, I do have many that I consider friends, even though we have never met in person, I know they would have my back if I needed it.
 
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