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I just saw aq story this morning on the new Florida Python season. It seems the snakes are taking over down there and killing off the local animals, so there is a new hunting season on pythons and Boa's. Interesting stuff.

The story on the local news was kinda funny because they showed a bunch of guys gathered around some wildlife expert telling them about what to expect from the snakes. It seems that when the snake gets scared and feels threatened, It evacuates it's bowels. Makes me glad i never let my Boa get scared or nervous!
 
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I watched a show on this last weekend.(discovery, science, history one of those channels) They hired about 8 full time hunters last year. They killed something like 15 snakes. That doesnt make much of a dent.
Burms and Retics are the problem. They get big and people dont want to kill them so they bring them to the glades or a wild area and thet them go. Not to mention all the ones that got out from the hurricanes. People dont think about the natural animals that will become food or that the snake could get back into a city/town and start eating dogs and cats. What about the kids that they put into danger or even adults.
I remember a story in the news from 10-15 years ago in the southeast about a 18' boa over 200lbs that was found under a persons house in the crawl space. Dogs and cats had been going missing for over a year before the found that snake. They killed it and it took 6 men to drag the snake out.

People buy a snake thinking its cool or cute at 18" - 36" not thinking about the fact they will get to 20' - 30' and need to eat 3 or 4 rabbits or small pigs per feeding and the cost that the food will be. They also need a big strong cage. Once one of these snakes gets to 6'-8' you shouldnt handle it alone. Over 10'-12' dont handle it alone. They are much stronger then any person.
A real big worry about the snakes in the wild is that these snakes have started to cross breed and the problem is that the male of one and the female of the other carry the gene to regulate the size. That means it may be possible to have a retic/burm that is over 40'.
I wanted a snake for most of my life. I started with a nice Albino Nelsons Milksnake. Max size is 48" possible 54" if you ush it. I dont power feed. So I dont see 54" as possible unless this snake lives 12-14 years and 10 is the norm. I have had the snake for 3 years and it is 30".
Lion fish are taking over the reefs off Florida. Nothing eats them and they can eat large fish in relation to there body size.
Snakeheads are taking over ponds and rivers across the US
^SOAPBOX^
This is a subject I am a little passionate about. When you get a pet of any kind dog, cat, snake, monitor, bearded, gecko, hampster, horse, goat or any animal. You should reserch the animal and find out what you need to give the animal a good life and that you will be able to house it and feed it for the full life of the animal. Dont get a pet on a whim if you have no idea about the animal. The days of zoo's and farms taking animals is over.
Horse- Stable and feeding $600 a month (around me)
15'-20' snake - A room in your house, $500+ for a cage and up to $100 a month to feed
Oscar (fish)- 75 gallon min tank for 1 fish
Botia Loaches need to be keep in groups of 3 or more 5 is better Clowns grow to 14" and need 125 gallon tank and live for 30 year (50 is the record)
Just think before you buy.
Sorry for the rant
 
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Tool me a minute to figure out what retic/berm meant.

Reticulated Python and BUrmese Python for those that don't know. Took me longer since your were misspelling Burm.:tongue:
 
We make every attempt to keep our PR from SLOSHING!!!

But we certainly will be interested in any skins (although we still don't know of a way to cast pythons consistently).
 
They only got 15.......


Man, all you have to do is walk out into the glades down there and you can trip over them. I think we need to take the guys that could only get 15 last year, and smear them with bacon grease and send them into the glades....the rest of us could just follow them, and wait......MMMMMMM BACON!
 
As the owner of large snakes and monitors I can tell you they are a full time chore and it is a everyday thing feedings once evey 2 weeks for the 2 large burmese ( 1-9ft 1-14ft ) the cleaning of the cage after sheds and feedings same with the 2 corns I have as well and to top it all off I raise hairless rats to offset the cost of feedings!!!! There indeed is more to think about than ooooohhh a snake thats cool. Lighting the correct way and proper heat is very expensive as well and time consuming it is more than a hobby it is a obligation.
 
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Well, the point about introduced species and irresponsible pet ownership is well taken, but it seems that we're missing the really hilarious story hidden in the facts. So, let's go through it step by step. Big snakes in the 'glades= problem. Government gets involved = bigger problem. No doubt there was a funded study by the Univ of Fla at some point that cost the taxpayers a couple million before it was all said and done. Probably an executive level panel appointed in the Dept of Wildlife management, with input from the EPA, and executive oversight from the state House executive committee on funding and earmarks for frivolous spending. Ultimate solution??????? Hire 8 full time state employees, no doubt with full benefits, pensions, and "once you're a state employee, you will never get laid off no matter how useless you are" tenure to live off the public dime forever. Net result......... wait for it........wait for it......... 15 dead snakes at a probable cost per head exceeding a heisman trophy winners starting salary.

Plan B..... Declare a hunting season, charge some no doubt outrageous fee for the tags, entry fees to public lands, camping fees, registration of kills, and of course taxes on all these things. End result, in a few years the crackers will have thinned the population out to the point that it is no longer self sustaining, so that some ivy league PHD over at the EPA can decide that they are endangered and need protection even though they are not native in the first place.

God bless America!
 
jskeen said:
Well, the point about introduced species and irresponsible pet ownership is well taken, but it seems that we're missing the really hilarious story hidden in the facts. So, let's go through it step by step. Big snakes in the 'glades= problem. Government gets involved = bigger problem. No doubt there was a funded study by the Univ of Fla at some point that cost the taxpayers a couple million before it was all said and done. Probably an executive level panel appointed in the Dept of Wildlife management, with input from the EPA, and executive oversight from the state House executive committee on funding and earmarks for frivolous spending. Ultimate solution??????? Hire 8 full time state employees, no doubt with full benefits, pensions, and "once you're a state employee, you will never get laid off no matter how useless you are" tenure to live off the public dime forever. Net result......... wait for it........wait for it......... 15 dead snakes at a probable cost per head exceeding a heisman trophy winners starting salary.

Plan B..... Declare a hunting season, charge some no doubt outrageous fee for the tags, entry fees to public lands, camping fees, registration of kills, and of course taxes on all these things. End result, in a few years the crackers will have thinned the population out to the point that it is no longer self sustaining, so that some ivy league PHD over at the EPA can decide that they are endangered and need protection even though they are not native in the first place.

God bless America!
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Steven,
You would be suprised on the turn out if they just advertised free beer....
 
jskeen said:
Well, the point about introduced species and irresponsible pet ownership is well taken, but it seems that we're missing the really hilarious story hidden in the facts. So, let's go through it step by step. Big snakes in the 'glades= problem. Government gets involved = bigger problem. No doubt there was a funded study by the Univ of Fla at some point that cost the taxpayers a couple million before it was all said and done. Probably an executive level panel appointed in the Dept of Wildlife management, with input from the EPA, and executive oversight from the state House executive committee on funding and earmarks for frivolous spending. Ultimate solution??????? Hire 8 full time state employees, no doubt with full benefits, pensions, and "once you're a state employee, you will never get laid off no matter how useless you are" tenure to live off the public dime forever. Net result......... wait for it........wait for it......... 15 dead snakes at a probable cost per head exceeding a heisman trophy winners starting salary.

Plan B..... Declare a hunting season, charge some no doubt outrageous fee for the tags, entry fees to public lands, camping fees, registration of kills, and of course taxes on all these things. End result, in a few years the crackers will have thinned the population out to the point that it is no longer self sustaining, so that some ivy league PHD over at the EPA can decide that they are endangered and need protection even though they are not native in the first place.

God bless America!
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Just tell the rednecks and Cajuns that these snakes make tasty gumbo!!
 
wdcav1952 said:
Just tell the rednecks and Cajuns that these snakes make tasty gumbo!!
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You Know Cav, I thought about putting that in there :), but decided to stay with what I have actual personal knowledge of. I know that rattlesnake and a couple other dry land species are quite tasty, but I also know from personal experience that cottonmouth is beyond nasty, and would tend to suspect that the Retic's and Burm's would more closely resemble the latter than the former.

Anybody that knows different, feel free to enlighten us!

James
 
jskeen said:
Well, the point about introduced species and irresponsible pet ownership is well taken, but it seems that we're missing the really hilarious story hidden in the facts. So, let's go through it step by step. Big snakes in the 'glades= problem. Government gets involved = bigger problem. No doubt there was a funded study by the Univ of Fla at some point that cost the taxpayers a couple million before it was all said and done. Probably an executive level panel appointed in the Dept of Wildlife management, with input from the EPA, and executive oversight from the state House executive committee on funding and earmarks for frivolous spending. Ultimate solution??????? Hire 8 full time state employees, no doubt with full benefits, pensions, and "once you're a state employee, you will never get laid off no matter how useless you are" tenure to live off the public dime forever. Net result......... wait for it........wait for it......... 15 dead snakes at a probable cost per head exceeding a heisman trophy winners starting salary.

Plan B..... Declare a hunting season, charge some no doubt outrageous fee for the tags, entry fees to public lands, camping fees, registration of kills, and of course taxes on all these things. End result, in a few years the crackers will have thinned the population out to the point that it is no longer self sustaining, so that some ivy league PHD over at the EPA can decide that they are endangered and need protection even though they are not native in the first place.

God bless America!
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don't they generally only issue a certain amount of tags? ie: say there are 5000 snakes they want only 2500, so they issue 3000 tags?? (not every hunt is successful, say 500)
 
I have been told it is a Asian delicacy to eay Burmese python especially larger ones...Hmmm road side stand ....snake on a stick!!!!
 
oh and boa constrictor makes a nice pen, id bet python does too...

this is 2 sierras, a cigar, and a slimline. the slim is more colorful b/c its from the tail.:confused:
plus I got one from a baby boa thats not yet cast but its the coolest skin I've ever seen

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I don't understand why the season and tags? It is a non-native species and has no place in the wild. Fortunately, here in Texas, our Parks and Wildlife people know that non-native species have no place in the wild and anything that is non-native has no season, tags, or limit. You can hunt them anyway you want, even at night. If you can legally obtain and use dynamite, you could even hunt Axis deer wtih it if you wanted! ALl you ahve to have is a Texas Hunting License.
 
ed4copies said:
We make every attempt to keep our PR from SLOSHING!!!

But we certainly will be interested in any skins (although we still don't know of a way to cast pythons consistently).
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Freeze the python first, it sets still a lot longer when it is cold.
 
MesquiteMan said:
If you can legally obtain and use dynamite, you could even hunt Axis deer wtih it if you wanted! ALl you ahve to have is a Texas Hunting License.
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Does this mean we will be seeing axis antler and cactus blanks soon??? "Home of the The Texas Worthless Animal Blanks"

Texas gets all the fun.
 
According to Maxine ...

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE PETS, THIS IS A TRUE STORY. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T, IT IS A TRUE STORY.

The following was found posted very low on a refrigerator door:

Dear Dogs and Cats:
The dishes with the paw prints are yours and contain your food. The other dishes are mine and contain my food. Placing a paw print in the middle of my plate and food does not stake a claim for it becoming your food and dish, nor do I find that aesthetically pleasing in the slightest.

The stairway was not designed by NASCAR and is not a racetrack. Racing me to the bottom is not the object. Tripping me doesn't help because I fall faster than you can run.

I cannot buy anything bigger than a king sized bed. I am very sorry about this. Do not think I will continue sleeping on the couch to ensure your comfort, however. Dogs and cats can actually curl up in a ball when they sleep. It is not necessary to sleep perpendicular to each other, stretched out to the fullest extent possible. I also know that sticking tails straight out and having tongues hanging out on the other end to maximize space is nothing but sarcasm.

For the last time, there is no secret exit from the bathroom! If, by some miracle, I beat you there and manage to get the door shut, it is not necessary to claw, whine, meow, try to turn the knob or get your paw under the edge in an attempt to open the door. I must exit through the same door I entered. Also, I have been using the bathroom for years - canine/feline attendance is not required.

The proper order for kissing is: Kiss me first, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough. :wink:

Finally, in fairness, dear pets, I have posted the following message on the front door:

TO ALL NON-PET OWNERS WHO VISIT AND LIKE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR PETS:
(1) They live here. You don't.
(2) If you don't want their hair on your clothes, stay off the furniture. That's why they call it 'fur'-niture.
(3) I like my pets a lot better than I like most people..
(4) To you, they are animals. To me, they are adopted sons/daughters who are short, hairy, walk on all fours and don't speak clearly.

Remember, dogs and cats are better than kids because they:
(1) eat less (uusually),
(2) don't ask for money all the time,
(3) are easier to train,
(4) normally come when called,
(5) never ask to drive the car,
(6) don't smoke or drink,
(7) don't want to wear your clothes,
(8) don't have to buy the latest fashions,
(9) don't need a gazillion dollars for college
and
(10) if they get pregnant, you can sell their children! :eek:
 
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ed4copies said:
We make every attempt to keep our PR from SLOSHING!!!

But we certainly will be interested in any skins (although we still don't know of a way to cast pythons consistently).
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When you say we, you really mean Dawn, don't you? I remember a post some time back where you said that you don't do spit! (every once in a while you let the truth slip out.)
 
Gin N' Tonic said:
When you say we, you really mean Dawn, don't you? I remember a post some time back where you said that you don't do spit! (every once in a while you let the truth slip out.)
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Well,

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Yes, you may substitute "she" for "we", if you prefer.
 
But we certainly will be interested in any skins (although we still don't know of a way to cast pythons consistently).
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Well, for the pythons in the Florida Glades, you start with a really, really, really long tube. :)
 
PenMan1 said:
But we certainly will be interested in any skins (although we still don't know of a way to cast pythons consistently).
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Well, for the pythons in the Florida Glades, you start with a really, really, really long tube. :)
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Somebody had a brass bar rail for sale a while back.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 
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