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snyiper

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After talking to one of our members and doing some research I am delving into the depths of DSLR cameras instead of repairing a obsolete 35mm ( thanks Moke!). I am a amature and have yet to pick a camera but am in need of a printer. So with all the experience in this group I hope to gain some insight on a good picture quality printer. I do have and use picture paper already I think color lazerjets are out of my price range so it would be a inkjet. I would like excellent quality prints up to 5x7 and reasonable ink prices (if that is possible) I would also like the head to be included with the ink and not a seperate thing to replace...Any Ideas?
 
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I have a HP 8250. Does me great. However, it has seperate ink cartridges. If I was to buy a new printer, I would probably go with the new Kodak, All-In-One printer. Seems right for the money. $100.00 to $150.00. Ink is not that expensive either.
 
I have a Canon Selphy CP780. It's a decent dedicated photo printer. It doesn't us ink, instead it uses film. The catch is you need to buy the Canon supplies, but the pro to it is, the ink never dries out(doesn't have ink). It does 4x6, the consumables are a little pricey, but are available at Sam's Club, Frye's, Staples, Office Depot, etc.
It does 300x300 resolution.
 
I have a Canon Selphy CP780. It's a decent dedicated photo printer. It doesn't us ink, instead it uses film. The catch is you need to buy the Canon supplies, but the pro to it is, the ink never dries out(doesn't have ink). It does 4x6, the consumables are a little pricey, but are available at Sam's Club, Frye's, Staples, Office Depot, etc.
It does 300x300 resolution.

I have the Canon Selphy "dye sublimation" printer as well. The colors are GREAT, better than I have been able to get from the ink jet printers. The catch IS getting the supplies. Wal-mart used to carry them, but now I have to order them.
 
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Dye sub printers give the best quality output but can be pricey for supplies (about the same a laser toner but with a much lower yield). Inkjet printers give ok quality snap shot photos and are cheap to buy and inkjet inks are one of the cheapest of the supplies (depending on the brand and type of cartridge) , but the ink dries out in the cartridge if you don't print allot and inkjets use allot of ink per photo so in the long run become one of the most expensive price per print ways to go . Laser color printers are more expensive to buy and toner is also very expensive but it don't dry out and most toner cartridges give around 2000 to 3000 prints per cartridge making laser the cheapest price per print of all the printer systems .
So now it depends how much you want to spend upfront , what print quality you want and how much printing you are going to be doing .
 
Sniyper,
At The Photo Merchandisers Conventions I have talked extensively with the people who test the ink-jet and Dye-sub photo paper....now I get a different story from the manufacturers of the printers, but as near as I can tell, now with todays printers, if it is stored in a resonable place (not in the sun) the prints you make should last about 10 to 12 years from ink jet and 15 -18 from the dye sub. And Dye sub prints die/fade in an ugly way. I always found this strange, we make photos mostly to preserve our memories, why do you want a short term memory. Now, there are truly archival printers, and I am sure somone will piont that out, but they are not affordable and really not very convenient to use.

Now coming from someone who has a Color-processor this sounds like sour grapes, but a C-print or a print on real photographic paper, it should last 70 years. The C-print is most often cheaper too. By the time you factor ink and paper for ink-jet, it is almost always cheaper. The Canon Selphy printers are really inexpensive to buy and produce a very nice photo. I have one myself for the little woman. I would highly recommend though, if you are going to produce any amount of photos, burn a disc, put that in their kiosk, instead of your sd or xd cards, and have prints made by your local processor. They should range in price from .15 to .25 per print.

Sorry Snyiper about telling you to not repair your maxum...I even checked with a guy I knew that did some repair on the side,that is know to hoard parts, to see if he had the parts for a 5...but no deal. Oh, I forgot to add if you get a Canon Selphy- you can print direct from the camera..take it along with you on vacation, no computer needed....of course you should take a lap-top, otherwise how would you see all our wonderful comments on the IAP!!!
Mike aka:Moke
 
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Glenn, We just bought the Kodak all in one about 2 months ago and it prints great looking pictures and what I like most about it is the ink cartridges don't cost you an arm and a leg to get them. We buy them from Sam's and the black is like like $10.
 
I used to spend a bunch of $$ on my printing. Continuous feed on my Epsons (yes, two) and lots of expensive paper.

Now I have a single inexpensive Canon for stuff that goes on the wall and the rest go to walmart.com.

I have found that I can get 95% of the way to perfection letting Wallyworld print my photos. That's more than adequate for snapshots, family stuff, and so on.
 
You will rarely get the quality or price at home printing to even come close to Walmart/CVS, or if you're lucky to have a color lab in your area, them. We have a commercial color lab that we use for prints as large as you could find a truck to carry, and they also run a color print processor similar to Walmarts (except theirs is run by a professional color printer, not some high school part-timer) and their per print prices are just a bit above Walmarts. Inkjet printers will rarely get the number of prints per cartridge that they claim when doing photos, I've seen ones that claimed to get 150 prints run out at 30. By contrast, Dye-Sub printers usually use a ribbon and come with a set amount of paper to match the capacity of the ribbon. They will get the exact amount advertised, never more, never less (short of operator errors). The decent printers are relatively expensive to start with, but the per-print prices come close to the stores. It takes a LOT of prints to make up for the purchase price.

IMHO. Inkjet prints should be considered absolutely temporary, unless you are purchasing archival paper and inks from an ink or paper manufacturer (as in NOT the printer manufacturer, but a specialty ink/paper supplier). If that is the case, you can expect them to last longer, but this stuff is NOT cheap.

The environment that the prints live in is very important also. I had an experiment in my office a few years ago with 2 prints from our Fujix Dye-Transfer Printer (slightly different version of Dye-Sublimation) where I put one on the front of my cabinet about 5 feet below the ceiling Florescent lights, and another on the wall in the shadow of the cabinet (no direct light hitting it) After about 3 years, the one in the light had cracked (severly) and faded (slightly), but the one in the shade was practically brand new. This is the result of Ultraviolet damage, and can be minimized if you frame the photos with UV blocking glass or plexi. But to make a short story long, if you leave them out for people to see, they aren't going to last.

As of right now, we are using a couple of Sony SnapLab printers to print photos at events, They work fantastic, and have very cheap per-print cost for 4x6 prints ( around 30 cents each, 5x7 material is for some reason 3x the cost per print...) and while the printers are fantastic and fast (about 3 prints per minute), I doubt the prints would hold up to much more than a few years on the mantle unprotected, and the investment in the printer is significant. I've seen the Canon Selphy's and similar printers, and helped people set up various Kodak ones over the years, and they are very capable printers with the same benefits/detractions.
 
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