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Monty

Monty

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Picked these two up in Hallettsville this past weekend while visiting friends and attending the Kolache Festival. They had been saving the snakes in the freezer for the past several weeks. The copperhead looked sorta dull before I skinned it, but when I began skinning it, the outer skin came off, it was just beginning to shed when it was killed.
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I hate when I see this. I have many reptiles including many snakes. Although none of mine are venomous it still bothers me it see people killing snakes just because they are snakes. I do understand that some snakes need to be killed when they endanger lives. Having said that, most snakes that endanger lives have been put in that position by us. I am good with people using snake skin for things when the snake has been found dead from natural causes, but killing them just to make a pen blank????? NO
 
Personally I wouldn't thank you for a pen made from a snake but the top one would make some good looking pens, the copperhead not so much. To me venomous snakes and lawnmowers sound like a good combination. The non venomous kind I wouldn't mind a few more of around here to keep the mice down that seem to keep finding their way into the house every winter.
 
Rick_G said:
Personally I wouldn't thank you for a pen made from a snake but the top one would make some good looking pens, the copperhead not so much. To me venomous snakes and lawnmowers sound like a good combination. The non venomous kind I wouldn't mind a few more of around here to keep the mice down that seem to keep finding their way into the house every winter.
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I get a kick out of people who say they are "animal lovers" but still only like the fuzzy ones who lick there face and sniff there crouch.
 
emtmike said:
I hate when I see this. I have many reptiles including many snakes. Although none of mine are venomous it still bothers me it see people killing snakes just because they are snakes. I do understand that some snakes need to be killed when they endanger lives. Having said that, most snakes that endanger lives have been put in that position by us. I am good with people using snake skin for things when the snake has been found dead from natural causes, but killing them just to make a pen blank????? NO
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I don't see any place where he said they were killed just to make pens. Here in Texas, we have a lot of venomous snakes and they are plentiful. I don't kill snakes just to kill a snake, even a rattler, but if one is in my yard where my kid play and my dogs roam, it is going to be dispatched most likely. Based on where these snakes came from, I am guessing that is the case with these as well. Probably best to not jump to conclusions like this!
 
MesquiteMan said:
emtmike said:
I hate when I see this. I have many reptiles including many snakes. Although none of mine are venomous it still bothers me it see people killing snakes just because they are snakes. I do understand that some snakes need to be killed when they endanger lives. Having said that, most snakes that endanger lives have been put in that position by us. I am good with people using snake skin for things when the snake has been found dead from natural causes, but killing them just to make a pen blank????? NO
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I don't see any place where he said they were killed just to make pens. Here in Texas, we have a lot of venomous snakes and they are plentiful. I don't kill snakes just to kill a snake, even a rattler, but if one is in my yard where my kid play and my dogs roam, it is going to be dispatched most likely. Based on where these snakes came from, I am guessing that is the case with these as well. Probably best to not jump to conclusions like this!
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True. I guess maybe a little defensive. Sorry if I pissed anybody off.
 
emtmike said:
MesquiteMan said:
emtmike said:
I hate when I see this. I have many reptiles including many snakes. Although none of mine are venomous it still bothers me it see people killing snakes just because they are snakes. I do understand that some snakes need to be killed when they endanger lives. Having said that, most snakes that endanger lives have been put in that position by us. I am good with people using snake skin for things when the snake has been found dead from natural causes, but killing them just to make a pen blank????? NO
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I don't see any place where he said they were killed just to make pens. Here in Texas, we have a lot of venomous snakes and they are plentiful. I don't kill snakes just to kill a snake, even a rattler, but if one is in my yard where my kid play and my dogs roam, it is going to be dispatched most likely. Based on where these snakes came from, I am guessing that is the case with these as well. Probably best to not jump to conclusions like this!
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True. I guess maybe a little defensive. Sorry if I pissed anybody off.
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No offense taken. Should have been clear on why the snakes were killed.
Curtis is correct. They have 40+ acres just outside Hallettsville and these two were killed in the yard close to the house where the kids and dogs play. A few years back when they first moved there, they killed over 10 copperheads while cleaning up inside and around the barn and hay shed. Unfortunately, they didn't know that I could use the skins at the the time and just threw the dead snake out in the field. :frown: They now keep geese around the house so snakes are few and far between.
 
Monty said:
emtmike said:
MesquiteMan said:
emtmike said:
I hate when I see this. I have many reptiles including many snakes. Although none of mine are venomous it still bothers me it see people killing snakes just because they are snakes. I do understand that some snakes need to be killed when they endanger lives. Having said that, most snakes that endanger lives have been put in that position by us. I am good with people using snake skin for things when the snake has been found dead from natural causes, but killing them just to make a pen blank????? NO
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I don't see any place where he said they were killed just to make pens. Here in Texas, we have a lot of venomous snakes and they are plentiful. I don't kill snakes just to kill a snake, even a rattler, but if one is in my yard where my kid play and my dogs roam, it is going to be dispatched most likely. Based on where these snakes came from, I am guessing that is the case with these as well. Probably best to not jump to conclusions like this!
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True. I guess maybe a little defensive. Sorry if I pissed anybody off.
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No offense taken. Should have been clear on why the snakes were killed.
Curtis is correct. They have 40+ acres just outside Hallettsville and these two were killed in the yard close to the house where the kids and dogs play. A few years back when they first moved there, they killed over 10 copperheads while cleaning up inside and around the barn and hay shed. Unfortunately, they didn't know that I could use the skins at the the time and just threw the dead snake out in the field. :frown: They now keep geese around the house so snakes are few and far between.
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So geese keep snakes away? Huh - I didn't know that. That would explain why I never see pens with geese feather blanks in the same case as snake skin blanks. :rolleyes:

I will still be very interested in seeing these when they're done. Do you ever sell your blanks, Mannie?
 
emtmike said:
Rick_G said:
Personally I wouldn't thank you for a pen made from a snake but the top one would make some good looking pens, the copperhead not so much. To me venomous snakes and lawnmowers sound like a good combination. The non venomous kind I wouldn't mind a few more of around here to keep the mice down that seem to keep finding their way into the house every winter.
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I get a kick out of people who say they are "animal lovers" but still only like the fuzzy ones who lick there face and sniff there crouch.
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Don't know where you got animal lover from my post. I said I don't like snakes never have and at nearly 70 I'm not likely to change in the time I have left. Oh and my fuzzy dog at 90 lbs. does not lick my face considering what it was likely licking a while ago it has never been allowed. It's job is to deter thieves and has done that well at least twice that I know of.
 
Nice score Monty. I know people that hate snakes so in their minds the only good snake is a dead snake. I also know people that kill only the poisonous ones. They are the ones that kill them when they get close to areas that may harm people or pets. I tell them to save them for me so I can use the skins for my pens.
 
I am getting a goose tomorrow. Hate snakes.

Although I am not too fond of Geese either. Hmmmm... What to do. :)

Good thing I live in Ohio.
 
Any snake I see is a good snake. My property has a lot of king snakes, hence no rattlers or copperheads. I've never even seen a coral snake. Lots of king cobras, no coral. My favorite is the hog nosed snake, what a show they put on.
The most dangerous snake in the USA is the black racer. I know more people have who hurt themselves when one charged them than people who have been bitten.
 
I gets snakes every year from a friend that goes to Arkansas to visit friends. They have a farm and little kids running around. Every year he brings back a bag of frozen prairie rattle snakes that the farmer removed from the farm yard and garden. I don't have a rattlesnake issue where I live but I don't blame them for what they do and I'm always happy to recycle them in to pen blanks.

On another note, I am an animal lover. I enjoy and respect all of mother natures gifts. I hunt but I game manage to help preserve those wild animals for futures to come. It's not all about wanting to cuddle cute little bunnies. :)
 
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