I would love to have found some "sub-bands" too. I have a hard enough time finding the main bands of these. I wish I could find some of the other Opus band as well. I have several of this color.Favorite Pen or Cigar? My favorite pen is the Madrone Burl. It looks more like the actual cigar. They all look nice. As far as cigars go I'm not a smoker but I like the Opus X because they seem to be the first to go as far as sales. If I may suggest something. I like the ones with the double or subands. I put the suband on the bottom section of the pen. Well done.