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johnnycnc

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I butchered somer videos together, I make no claims to being
professional or an expert on anything.:)
Yes, I am reading from a "script", I get lost otherwise!:biggrin:

Darn script takes an hour or two to think through and write up for each one, sheesh.:rolleyes:

Here is the first one I did its on You Tube, it talks about centers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c--nfxh8og

second one is also on You Tube, it talks about basically drilling blanks on the lathe;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX4UU5aIu_A




These are fun, and could be addictive! Hope you enjoy!!
 
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Nice video john but how dare you use a factory plastic pen in it LOL LOL you should be using a custom made pen.

Dannie
 
John,
I bought a 60 degree live center from Grizzly and I noticed last night while turning on a mandrel that it has a wobble to it and I think my mandrel is bent already. I do not think I am putting too much pressure on the mandrel while turning if I loosen it up any then I get the squeal as the mandrel spins but the live doesnt, do you think I may be appling too much pressure on the mandrel while finishing? Awesome videos by the way. As soon as I get some money I will be ordering a live center and possible an mandrel rod, just wanted to let ya know. Thanks
Len
 
John
Thank you for taking the time to do this. It sure answered a lot of questions. I have been wanting to start turning between centers and have only found written instructions. Like they say, a picture is worth a few 1,000 words. Can't wait for the next segment to come out. I'll be placing my order for some items soon.
Thanks again.....very well done.
Bob
 
Good job John... I learn a little from everyone...
It was worth the prep time... That came across well in the video...
I'm waiting for the next one...as I'm just gathering the tools necessary to TBC...
Happy New Year...
Ed
 
Len Shreck said:
John,
I bought a 60 degree live center from Grizzly and I noticed last night while turning on a mandrel that it has a wobble to it and I think my mandrel is bent already. I do not think I am putting too much pressure on the mandrel while turning if I loosen it up any then I get the squeal as the mandrel spins but the live doesnt, do you think I may be appling too much pressure on the mandrel while finishing? Awesome videos by the way. As soon as I get some money I will be ordering a live center and possible an mandrel rod, just wanted to let ya know. Thanks
Len
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Hi Len,
It sure sounds like a bent mandrel to me. It is tough to try to diagnose why, I got away from the darn things to quit pulling my hair out over just such things.
The squealing is likely from the end of the mandrel beating itself
to death as it wobbles and is being slightly forced back into a truer path
by the fairly stationary plane of the live center point. (gawd, that sounds mighty technical, huh? :rolleyes:).
.. Replace the mandrel, that usually cures the problem for a short while.
I was convinced when I used them that they got kinked everytime I had a bit of a catch while turning the blank. One thing always seemed to follow the other.
Crud, man.. I get a little catch on nearly every blank I turn!:biggrin:
That whole scene just wasn't working for me.:frown:

Thanks for the thumbs up on the videos!:)
 
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Thanks to everyone who suffered through my amateur videos,
and took time to leave some mighty nice comments here.:)

And Kirk..yes, I'll try to get the shoulder out of the way next time:biggrin:
Sorry 'bout that!
I'll probably move the lathe bench around so I can get the camera on the
non-people side of the lathe.
 
very good videos - I learned something in each of them!! (the whole point, right??).

My only critique is that the heater/hvac noise is distracting.

We ALMOST bought the beale collet yesterday, and now I wish we had!! There will be other sales...
Darci
 
Thanks Johnny for the vids on this subject. I loved George's tutorial, and now having you doing the video segments on how to turn between centers is just icing on the cake.

I have a question for you. I received a collet set for Xmas, but it isn't the Beale set account of the cost I guess. What I got was the set sold by Woodcraft under their name brand. It looks like the Beale set but I'm sure it is a bit lower quality. The problem is that the largest collet in the set was 5/8ths. I'm sure I can get a 3/4 size for it, but don't know what size of collet to get. You mentioned that the Beale collets are ER32. I'm wondering if you might know or give an educated guess as to the size of the Woodcraft collets. They sure look like the same size, but this new territory for me, i.e., just call me clueless. Also, is there a way to measure a collet to determine it's "ER" size?

Thanks again for the videos! Can't wait for the next one in the series. Also, got my stuff I ordered from you and I appreciate the extra aluminum blank to practice on. I'm sure I will need it.

Rick (mtgrizzly52)
 
Johnny, thanks for those videos, watched both and it helped me greatly. PS, the small portion with your back to us, move the camera so we can see what you are doing and it will be even more impressive. yeah, I know, once you set the camera up it is a bit bothersome to reset it just for a short space, but well worth it. Amos
 
darcisowers said:
very good videos - I learned something in each of them!! (the whole point, right??).

My only critique is that the heater/hvac noise is distracting.

We ALMOST bought the beale collet yesterday, and now I wish we had!! There will be other sales...
Darci
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Thanks Darci, I agree on the Furnace noise. I think I will switch the blower off next time.:)
 
mtgrizzly52 said:
Thanks Johnny for the vids on this subject. I loved George's tutorial, and now having you doing the video segments on how to turn between centers is just icing on the cake.
Thanks, I have yet to do the actual pen blank segment yet, but it's coming!

I have a question for you. I received a collet set for Xmas, but it isn't the Beale set account of the cost I guess. What I got was the set sold by Woodcraft under their name brand. It looks like the Beale set but I'm sure it is a bit lower quality.
Does it have a MT shank, instead of screw on connection?
like this one:
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2005352/10921/Turners-Collet-Chuck-Set-2-MT.aspx

The problem is that the largest collet in the set was 5/8ths. I'm sure I can get a 3/4 size for it, but don't know what size of collet to get.
You may be limited to 5/8" on this if it's the one I link to above.
You mentioned that the Beale collets are ER32. I'm wondering if you might know or give an educated guess as to the size of the Woodcraft collets.
Educated guess is ER25, as 5/8" is max size for that series, but I can't say for sure.They sure look like the same size, but this new territory for me, i.e., just call me clueless. Also, is there a way to measure a collet to determine it's "ER" size?
Yes, here is a chart:
http://www.gemcolletsindia.com/er_type-collets.html



Thanks again for the videos! Can't wait for the next one in the series. Also, got my stuff I ordered from you and I appreciate the extra aluminum blank to practice on. I'm sure I will need it.

Rick (mtgrizzly52)
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Thanks for the good word, Rick!:)
 
WoodenInk said:
Johnny, thanks for those videos, watched both and it helped me greatly. PS, the small portion with your back to us, move the camera so we can see what you are doing and it will be even more impressive. yeah, I know, once you set the camera up it is a bit bothersome to reset it just for a short space, but well worth it. Amos
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Thanks for the kind words, Amos.
I apologize for that guy who got in front of the lense! I'm firing him.:biggrin:
next one will be better, I promise.
 
Ok, after review, and a polite pm from a respected friend..
my drilling on the lathe is less than desirable.
The chatter on entry is not good, and the slop in the tailstock quill
is the main culprit. I am going to try partly tightening the quill lock, and see if that helps.
I really don't like drilling on the lathe, but thought I'd show it in the video.:)

I will attempt to reshoot that one, with more desirable drilling action.

This may be a good example though of what problems you MAY run into while doing this, though.:rolleyes::biggrin:
 
Johnny,
Thanks for taking the time to produce the two videos. I've been turning between centers for almost a year now and I still learned from your video. I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of the Drilling on the Lathe video. The chatter you experienced is similar to what many/most of us experience so having it included in the video is actually not a bad thing. The slop in the tail stock is probably the biggest hassel I have for drilling on a lathe so it was good to know that I am not the only one plagued by this issue.

Thanks again for takng the time to share your expertise, it is appreciated.

Jim Smith
 
Rick, I believe that the collets from Woodcraft do not follow any of the ER sizes. I believe that they are proprietary. I think several here have done research on them and found that to be true but you might want to do a search on here.
 
Thanks Johnny, you did a great job. I have been working with these for years in steel working and never thought about oiling the live center. Now I know how. RichB
 
Excellent videos John, thanks for taking the time to post them! :cool:

I don't think it's been mentioned, you can 'subscribe' to John's videos and then you'll get an email letting you know whenever there are others uploaded...:)
 
RichB said:
Thanks Johnny, you did a great job. I have been working with these for years in steel working and never thought about oiling the live center. Now I know how. RichB
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Thanks for the good word, Rich. Some of these centers even have a cover plate on the front, takes a spanner wrench to remove.
You can pack grease back in there as another life-saver (if it has the cover plate).
 
devowoodworking said:
Excellent videos John, thanks for taking the time to post them! :cool:

I don't think it's been mentioned, you can 'subscribe' to John's videos and then you'll get an email letting you know whenever there are others uploaded...:)
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Thanks John, for being so kind.:) These were fun to make, I do hope
to make more proffesional productions as I learn. (been exploring today!).
 
Thanks, John, for another great video.

I must say, though, that you're taking all the fun out of being a newbie. With so much useful information in such a short time, you're depriving me of the frustration, blown blanks, broken tools and just plain stupidity that makes pen turning such a joyous challenge to those of us who are just starting.

Seriously, keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to your next segment.
 
JakeAB said:
Thanks, John, for another great video.

I must say, though, that you're taking all the fun out of being a newbie. With so much useful information in such a short time, you're depriving me of the frustration, blown blanks, broken tools and just plain stupidity that makes pen turning such a joyous challenge to those of us who are just starting.

Seriously, keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to your next segment.
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Thanks for the good word, Jim. :biggrin:
I'm glad there was something useful in there for you.
The best is yet to come, I'm working on the script for actually doing a blank
between centers with my bushings. I hope to shut my mouth and get it turned in the 10 minute timeframe You Tube has.:biggrin:
Again, Thanks!
 
Make it two seven minute sessions!

People will listen better, anyhow.

By six minutes or so, you are looking forward to the end and your voice shows it, if you are like me.

FWIW
 
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Jim Smith said:
Johnny,
Thanks for taking the time to produce the two videos. I've been turning between centers for almost a year now and I still learned from your video. I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of the Drilling on the Lathe video. The chatter you experienced is similar to what many/most of us experience so having it included in the video is actually not a bad thing. The slop in the tail stock is probably the biggest hassel I have for drilling on a lathe so it was good to know that I am not the only one plagued by this issue.

Thanks again for takng the time to share your expertise, it is appreciated.

Jim Smith
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Thanks, Jim for your comments. I can see your point on drilling on the lathe.
I am sure there are those who don't have the chatter, but as you saw, it
is not me.:biggrin: I bet more do, than don't.
I am somewhat spoiled by having a metal lathe in the garage also, and drilling
on it is a totally different experience (good).
I drill all my pens on the drill press, though and really think it's quicker and easier. Now if I need to hold center of a blank for patterns, I would not use the drill press, as it can wander, for me.
Thanks for taking time to watch!
 
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