I am new to the forum. I am an experienced bowl turner and am responding to an interest by my grandsons to make pens. I have already ordered and used some pen/pencil making equipment as I wanted to get some experience with the procedure before introducing my grandsons. I ordered a couple of slimline kits from a reputable company that I have used for other lathe turning equipment. I made a slimline pencil where the click mechanism worked all of a couple hours, hardly acceptable to me much less a couple of 12 and 13 year old boys. I suspect this question has been asked and answered at least a couple of times. If you could point me to a previous thread or give me your opinion I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance. I would prefer not to name the company I ordered the pencil kits from.