Thanks Hank. I would like to click the like buttons for all but it can lose the page. I have tried to be of some help over these 20 years. I like some of you have seen this forum grow and watched many talented artisans come through here and some colorful characters as well , but all has been a good ride and would do it all over again. I hope I entertained some over those years by my work, my threads (positive or negative) and also my contributions of many kinds. I thank Jeff for creating this place and keeping the lights on. It has become a treasure trove of info found in many places here. The behind the scenes work does not get enough credit but those people know we care. 20 years sounds like a long tome but it does go quick. I know I will not be around for another 20 and if I do not get this web site running smoothe again maybe even shorter. It is a huge annoyance and I will try to stop by and check a few threads if I can. If I do not reply please do not take it as an insult. I just can not get here. Thanks again and glad to abe a 20 year member. Maybe we should get pins or something.