Iraqi Scouts and penmaking: could use some advice

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So here I am deployed to Baghdad for a year...

In between working, I have been volunteering with the Iraqi Scout program here in Baghdad as we try to get a national Scouting program up and running again (it was decertified under Saddam Hussein). Every week a group of US and Iraqi military volunteers meet with a group or 40 or 50 Iraqi kids who want to become Scouts. We teach and lead various activities and crafts and games like any batch of Scouts. It's great fun for the kids and even more fun for us (and hey, it gets us out of work for an afternoon, what's not to like?).

(Here's a link to our group's website if you're interested: http://www.victorybasecouncil.org/)

So where does the penmaking come in, you ask? Well, a lot of very generous people in the States donate Scouting equipment and craft supplies to the Iraqi Scouting program. One very generous recent donation was a large box of simple slimline pen kits designed to be craft projects. That is, they're designed to NOT need power tools to finish them. They come with the blanks cut and drilled, tubes glued and barrels already turned round. The crafter needs to hand-sand the barrels to the right size, then apply a finish and assemble.

When the donated kits arrived, I thought, "Aha! Here is a project I know something about! I may not be able to start a fire using two twigs and a loop of thread, but by gum I know how to make pens!" So I took one of the kits back to my hooch to give it a test run and see how suitable it would be for young kids. Unfortunately, bringing the barrels down to the right size took me over an hour of steady hand sanding, and I'm having a tough time seeing most of the younger kids being able to stick with the project that long.

Hence my question. Without access to a lathe, what might I be able to do to speed up the process of turning the barrels to size before I pass the kits out to the Scouts? There is an engineering battalion here on Victory Base and they're eager to help, but as you can imagine their woodworking equipment tends to be on the large industrial scale -- think bridges, not pens. They might have a belt sander small enough to be useful, but how would you keep the barrels round (and not sand the bushings into oblivion) on a belt sander?

I did find the answer to my second question on the site already -- how to rig a field-expedient pen press. The kits come with a simple device intended to serve as a pen vise -- a long bolt and nut and two small pieces of wood with holes drilled in them. You thread the wood pieces on the bolt, put the pen-in-the-making between them, and tighten the nut down. Theoretically this would push the pen together, but unfortunately the pen is not centered on the bolt -- the axis of the vise -- so it would break if you could actually tighten the nut that far. Turn out that's not a problem because the wooden blocks are soft pine and when you tighten the nut it just screws itself into the pine. Well, at least you won't break the pen that way! But I found a link here to a good article on making your own pen vise from scrap wood, and I plan to enlist the Engineer Battalion in that project. They love an engineering challenge and as you would imagine are incredibly good at fabricating stuff on the fly. If any of you have made significant improvements to the DIY pen vise (the one TN-Steve posted, this was the link: http://www.woodturningonline.com/Turning/Turning_content/pen_assembly_press.html), please let me know. I'll hand it off to the 54th Eng Bn and in a couple of days we should have a pen press that will withstand everything from small kids to a nuclear blast.

Last question is on decoration. The kids are into bright. We will not be applying some bland coat of polish that merely protects the wood. They like colors, the more the merrier. So I am thinking we'll have them decorate their pens with ..... what? Marking pens? Paint pens? Fine-tip Sharpies? What would work the best on wood? All the kits seem to be light maple if that makes a difference.

Thanks in advance for your help. I'll be sure to post photos of the kids with the pens!

Cheers Eileen
 
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That is so cool. I have been racking my brain to come up with some answers for ya but so far nothing is coming to mind. Do they have access to a drill press or even a drill? You could use a long bolt and nuts as a mandrel and spin the bolt in the drill and hold the sandpaper that way.
 
Eileen, Check out this web site http://www.stuartking.co.uk/ . It's a history of woodturning and might give some ideas. Bet the engineers could scrounge up some angle iron and a 2x4. Drill some holes in the verticals, add some washers to Rob's long bolt, and there you have a makeshift lathe - not suitable for turning, but great for sanding...
 
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Just dawned on me..I've got a lathe set up from Harbout Freight..the headstock, tail stock and tool rest have clamps to attach to a 2x4. just clamp them on, chuck on a hand drill and you're in business. It's collecting dust and I'd be glad to donate it..Only weighs a pound or two so could go USPS to an APO....Interested?
 
How about building a simple pole lathe (could use a bungee cord instead of a sapling). This way the kids would have a chance to see how a lathe work, they often have fun "pumping" the lathe, and they could work on their coordination (pumping and even sanding at the same time can be a challenge) or teamwork. A decent place to start might be at the Association of Polelathe Turners at http://www.bodgers.org.uk/plans-menu Sounds like a great project. Good luck, Bob I. Eagle Scout
 
I think you are making it overly complicated trying to get the pens to match the bushings. I know this goes against the grain of just about every pen maker here but I say leave the barrels as they are. Of course, I'm assuming they are close to the correct size already. If not, ignore this post. If they are close, go ahead and let the kids decorate them with paint or colored markers, finish and assemble. They're going to be happy they were able to make a pen. With 5 or 6 lathes you're not going to get the kids turning them down.
 
Hi,

Any hand drill or drill press can be use from your need. Since you just need to sand, no big support is required. Just chuck a mandrel with the bushing in the drill, put it in any vise large enough to hold it and find a way to jam the trigger on. Should do the job.
 
I have seen a bycicle made into a lathe in fact twice in two countries. In africa they use the main wheel as a flywheel and just have a tailstcock hammered into the ground, they were turning blackwood and making a nice job of it too

the other person was in the UK a guy called phil readon he used to show it t the woodworking shows clever really as all the bearings are ready made in a bike and the whole unit was of course pedal power it was awesome pedal and turn pedal and turn. we could keep fit whilst making pens he came out with a book called the woodturners pocket book I think

heres another awsome made lathe at this link food for thought
http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/Answers+To+Bicycle+Lathe+Questions.aspx
 
Shopnotes #73 has a wooden lathe plan available.
 

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long bolt of the appropriate diamenter chucked into a hand drill and locked in a vice. i use this a lot for making small parts and i have a lathe.
and by the way, thanks for all you are doing for this country, my family and working on good relations with the iraqi youth. they will remember you with warm thoughts long after you leave. you and everyone there are greatly appreciated..........bear
 
Who says that a pen has to be round? Check out some of the pens that Skiprat makes, they aren't round but I doubt anyone would say they aren't outstanding.
 
I had sent Eileen and email and offer her a batch of pen blanks ( 300 +), turned to a close diameter that would just need a little sanding. That would be about 4 1/2 hours of work for Sierra style or single barrel pens and 7 -8 for pens with upper & lower barrels.

I think it is for a good cause and worth my time.
 
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Maybe get volunteers here to turn the blanks and send them back finished but unassembled. Then you could set up a work station where the kids could choose their blanks and kits (maybe set up a mix-and-match type assortment) and then assemble them. All you would need would be pen presses or clamps. The kids would have fun choosing among the different materials and seeing the pens come together.

I've worked with scouts for years and I've learned that with every activity you have to really limit what the scouts are being asked to do to just a few steps (relatively increasing with age).

If you have a single lathe, you can demonstrate how the wood is turned round, then let them put everything together.
 
Eileen
Check out the article

"From the Hands of Alzheimer's,"
pages 52-58,
Woodcraft Magazine Issue 13 (Oct/Nov 2006)

If you cant get it out there then send me note and I will send you a PDF of it. This article goes into great detail on the methods the author used to allow Alzheimer's create pens using no power tools. There are good discriptions for creating the jigs needed and the actual process for creating the pens from blank to finish.
 
Hey Eileen!!!!

Glad to see you made it - sounds like the duty is not too treacherous.

May God guide you and bring you home safely!!!
 
Hi Eileen,
Good to see you post again.
I was thinking the bolt or mandrel in the hand drill like was already suggested.
Another way to do this would be to teach the kids wood carving if you have or can get the correct tools. With a small gouge you could quickly get the ends down to the bushing diamater and they could also carve in their own design. Could even color inside the carving (like a primitive Pen Wizard.)

Stay safe.
 
Thanks for all the help!!

Wow! You guys are the best. Thanks very much for all the advice.

I am intrigued by the possibilities of a handmade simple lathe and we'll look at trying that with some of the older Scouts in conjunction with the pen project. And I've gladly accepted Mr Vic's offer of lathe-parts to clamp to a 2x4 and make a demo lathe, to show the Scouts how the process works.

In the meantime I would happily accept the offers of help in turning or sanding the blanks down to size. Constant has volunteered to send a large batch of 300, which is not merely generous but clearly above and beyond the call of duty! May I propose that I mail some of the unturned blanks from the kits to anyone who's willing to volunteer, and you can either turn those and send them back or keep those and send some other slimline blanks in any wood you feel like -- that way there would be several different kinds of wood for the kids to choose. They would get to pick the blanks and assemble the pens and we would show them how the pens were turned and how early lathes worked. All in all it sounds like a highly interesting day for the Scouts.

Once again I am blown away by the thoughtfulness and generosity of the members of this forum. Please accept my sincere thanks for all your ideas, suggestions and offers of assistance.

Cheers Eileen
 
I'll turn some blanks down for you. Send me a pm if you need my address or if Constant can send some to me and then I'll send them to you.
 
If you'll send me a PM with your mailing address, I'll turn and send you some of my own blanks. Just tell me when you will need them. You don't need to send me anything at all. I can't do a huge production, but I can probably handle 20-30 slims, if given enough time.
 
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Iraqi Scouts make their pens!

Y'all may remember that some months ago I posted a request for help with a penmaking project for the Iraqi Scouts here in Baghdad. I got a lot of very generous assistance including help in turning a whole lot of slimline barrels down to size.

In the meantime, I got transferred to another part of Baghdad, and did not get to go play with the Scouts every weekend. But this past weekend I was able to take the slimline kits back to Victory Base and rejoin the Scouts for one last afternoon before I redeploy at the end of this month.

The pen project was the hit of the afternoon, mainly because the kids got make something and take it home with them. I did a little pre-assembly on the kits before I handed them out, pressing in the major parts, so the Scouts didn't have to worry about inserting the twist mechanism. But they did the smooth sanding, assembled their pens, and then decorated them with colored pencils and markers. As you'll see from the photos, they really got into the decorating. One Scout even colored his pen like an Iraqi flag! We only spoiled a few kits, mostly because it takes a lot longer to say and translate into Arabic "First take the little plastic cap off the ink refill" than it does for a child to insert the refill, cap and all, into the twist mechanism. Once the plastic cap is deep in the mechanism, the only reasonable option to avoid tears is to hand over another lower barrel from another kit! If I ever do this again I will remove and discard all the little plastic caps well in advance.

For Bruce Fifer, Vic Vickers, Keith Russell and Brian Koehler: my sincere thanks to all of you for your help with this project. Keith, the older boys each got to make two pens, one of the plain wooden ones and one with one of your fancy, more "grown-up" blanks, which they loved. Vic, your lathe is now out at the Scout camp, awaiting the advent of electricity at the camp. And my thanks as well to everyone who offered advice and recommendations on the best way to approach the project. The kids had a great time and, of course, all the volunteers did too.

It's been a great year here but I am looking forward to coming back to CONUS... I hope to have my workshop back in operation by mid January in DC!

cheers Eileen
 

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Now THAT IS NATION BUILDING!

Some time ago I saw a post somewhere, maybe not here, about a hand sander for pens that wasn't powered at all! It was intended for use in nursing homes where you would not want people around power equipment. I'll see if I can find this mag.

Ahh! I found the post in the YAHOO Penturners group:
Check out the November 06 issue of Woodcraft magazine (pg 53)for a
story on how one penturner developed a method to make pens without
powertools or chisels. He works with Alzheimers patients in a
nursing home and has had great success.


Added Later: Sharpies would work well with light colored wood.
 
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Eileen
Check out the article

"From the Hands of Alzheimer's,"
pages 52-58, Woodcraft Magazine Issue 13 (Oct/Nov 2006)

If you cant get it out there then send me note and I will send you a PDF of it. This article goes into great detail on the methods the author used to allow Alzheimer's create pens using no power tools. There are good discriptions for creating the jigs needed and the actual process for creating the pens from blank to finish.


I believe that was something I saw (on YouTube, I think) and it was pretty neat. He took his set up to some 'Retirement Centers' and it did not take too long to get them to size.

Is there a web site mentioned in the article you're talking about?


Barney
 
Eileen, I'm glad to hear it was a great success. My son is currently at Camp Taji north of Baghdad so it means a lot to have the kids there with the pens. Thanks to you and all your helpers.
 
Eileen, First of all Thank you for your service, secondly thank you for helping forge a bond with those children, They look like kids having fun, and that's what being a kid should be about.
 
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