mrcook4570
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OK, another post office rant. It seems that among the many recent changes was the deletion of the global flat rate priority envelopes. Does anybody have any suggestions for inexpensive international shipping?
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jcollazo
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The new Priority FR envelopes can be used both domestically AND internationally. Says so right on the envelope. Check the USPS site for pricing.
Tom McMillan
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I use First-Class Mail International. There are 6 rate groups that countries can fall into. Most of my items are light miniatures and usually under 3 ounces which costs less than $3. Looks like you can send up to 4 pounds by this method but the rates go up as they get heavier. A one pound package would run from $4.66 to $10.40 depending on the zone you're sending to. I got a printout from the USPS site some time ago with the info---but, I don't have the link handy.
Tuba707
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Hey Stan,
You should still be able to send up to 4lb in the normal Flat Rate envelope overseas for $11.00.
My post office workers had to be informed of that by me.
You should still be able to send up to 4lb in the normal Flat Rate envelope overseas for $11.00.
My post office workers had to be informed of that by me.
Darley
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Stan you took my thought out of my head, I was going to make a post for this subject, maybe someone can add this on the front page.
I buy few things from the States and I know that lately you have a shipping increase, now depending on where you send the parcel rate change, but here's what I pay for shipping from the States.
First the seller ( from the States ) would have to use a FLAT RATE MAILING ENVELOPE ( for Domestic and International use ) code # on USPS site <b>EP14F </b>( 12" x 9.5" )those envelope can ship 4 pounds of produce, shipping charge ( to me in OZland ) is bettween US$ 10.45 to US$ 12.00 ( my last order from Woodturningz was US$ 12.00 for 3lb 6oz ).
In these envelope to protect your produce you can slide the box ( for domestic use only code # USPS site <b>0-1096-large</b> ) seal the envelope and fill the white custom form CN22, NOW YOU'RE IN BUSINESS[
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I buy few things from the States and I know that lately you have a shipping increase, now depending on where you send the parcel rate change, but here's what I pay for shipping from the States.
First the seller ( from the States ) would have to use a FLAT RATE MAILING ENVELOPE ( for Domestic and International use ) code # on USPS site <b>EP14F </b>( 12" x 9.5" )those envelope can ship 4 pounds of produce, shipping charge ( to me in OZland ) is bettween US$ 10.45 to US$ 12.00 ( my last order from Woodturningz was US$ 12.00 for 3lb 6oz ).
In these envelope to protect your produce you can slide the box ( for domestic use only code # USPS site <b>0-1096-large</b> ) seal the envelope and fill the white custom form CN22, NOW YOU'RE IN BUSINESS[
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its_virgil
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The new flat rate priority envelopes work for both domestic and international. You can ship up to 4 lbs for $11.60. I put the stuff in a flat rate box (the larger VHS shaped box) and slide it insind the flat rate envelope.
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Don
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Don
I bought a humidor from Florida by ebay - won it for 25 dollars even..shipping by UPSP would be 23, UPS charged 18, so I went with UPS...
UPS then wanted a 20 dollar fee to clear customs (when USPS doesn't charge), and additional money for insurance....
so my 25 dollar humidor cost me close to 70 after the dust settled....never will use UPS again!
UPS then wanted a 20 dollar fee to clear customs (when USPS doesn't charge), and additional money for insurance....
so my 25 dollar humidor cost me close to 70 after the dust settled....never will use UPS again!
wicook
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Hey Andrew,
That's why I won't buy from a supplier who won't ship via postal mail service...regardless of the country they're shipping from. I had a similar experience with UPS a couple of years ago when I ordered some finish from one of our US suppliers. You got off easy...they charged me $30 for their "brokerage" fee. What a money maker for them!
That's why I won't buy from a supplier who won't ship via postal mail service...regardless of the country they're shipping from. I had a similar experience with UPS a couple of years ago when I ordered some finish from one of our US suppliers. You got off easy...they charged me $30 for their "brokerage" fee. What a money maker for them!
Grizzlyss
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I had the same problem with UPS many years ago. I bought some oscilliscope brobes from the US, they cost me $18.00, I told the guy to ship them USPS, but he sent them UPS. It ended up costing me $35.00 extra just for those jokers to bring it into Canada fo me. Now I emphatically tell them USPS or not at all.
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jcollazo
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I had put together a two-page document with the First Class International Rates so I wouldn't have to wade through the USPS manual. It just has the rates for a number of countries and pertinent info about the envelope sizes and such. You can find it at: http://www.turncrafts.com/FC_Ship_Rates.pdf
Darley
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Joe what is the shipping time for the first class to Australia, do you know? look like expensive to me.
jcollazo
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I shipped some mandrels to OZ a few months ago. In fact, I screwed up on the order and had to mail it twice. In each case they had the package (First Class) in 6 days (Mon-Sat).
Gary Max
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The real big trick---finding someone at the post office that knows what's going on. I ship all over the world and some days it's a fight to keep from getting over charged. This is not intended to bash postal clerks. You really should have a good ideal of the rates before you go into the post office or you may get gouged. The last envelope I shipped went from $38.00 to $7.80 after three different clerks and a postmaster.
Darley
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Joe look like the International shipping first class is a waste of money for the shipping time, in my first post, I mentioned Ryan at woodturningz his envelope made in 5 days shipping time to OZland, sorry by your mixup.
Garry how can be a such difference in price by just talking to several person? don't you have a tarif for postage, I mean here we do have price list about 10 pages for Australian air/ suface / express / next day delivery, now here's the trick, if I want to send someting in another States ( here in Australia ) and use express post, that will cost me more ( twice the price and depending the weight ) than to buy a next day delivery envelope, shipping time....... the same 1 day .
Now it would be nice if everyone who send any things over sea put is input in this thread including supplier if they can give some input or experience, Thanks in advence
Garry how can be a such difference in price by just talking to several person? don't you have a tarif for postage, I mean here we do have price list about 10 pages for Australian air/ suface / express / next day delivery, now here's the trick, if I want to send someting in another States ( here in Australia ) and use express post, that will cost me more ( twice the price and depending the weight ) than to buy a next day delivery envelope, shipping time....... the same 1 day .
Now it would be nice if everyone who send any things over sea put is input in this thread including supplier if they can give some input or experience, Thanks in advence
Gary Max
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Our rates change to much-----the biggie now is what size is the package and what package are you useing. I hate fussing with them but really the only other thing I could do is stop international shipping.
its_virgil
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I just sent Serge a pkg that was packed in the large video tape box and placed inside a Flat Rate Priority Envelope. It weighed 3 lbs 11 oz (has a 4lb max)and cost $11.00.
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Don
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Don
ed4copies
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Don,
That's really not within the USPS rules. The revised rules have indicated that the "flat rate envelope" should not be more than one-quarter inch thick. I suspect they cleared this up after I (and others) screamed at them about the purpose for "flat-rate" which was, originally, to compete with UPS (who SELDOM delivers letters!!!)
So, as long as your locals TAKE it, Keep it up!!! But they CAN refuse it. (Which initiates me walking out, telling them UPS is right down the street and the postage is about the same as their $8.90 box).
That's really not within the USPS rules. The revised rules have indicated that the "flat rate envelope" should not be more than one-quarter inch thick. I suspect they cleared this up after I (and others) screamed at them about the purpose for "flat-rate" which was, originally, to compete with UPS (who SELDOM delivers letters!!!)
So, as long as your locals TAKE it, Keep it up!!! But they CAN refuse it. (Which initiates me walking out, telling them UPS is right down the street and the postage is about the same as their $8.90 box).
its_virgil
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This has been debated here and on the other boards. The rules don't say I can nor do they say I can't. I've been told that flat rate envelopes must remain flat since they are flat rate envelopes. I've been told that what ever you can get inside the envelope and still close it will work. The following is directly off of the USPS Website re:Flat Rate Envelopes:
Here is a report from Curtis from another thread in the classified. Maybe the rules have changed. I don't know when Curtis sent his query to USPS customer service.
I still get pkgs in these envelopes where the flap is tightly closed over the box inside (like Bill B does his smaller orders) and I send them out that way myself. Seems that the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. I will continue to ship this way until I'm told no. There are a couple of ladies at my post office that I avoid because they are more interested in impressing us with their (erroneous) knowledge of postal regulations and their window authority. I just let others go ahead of me until a window with a competent clerk opens up.
Do a good turn daily!
Don
Here is a report from Curtis from another thread in the classified. Maybe the rules have changed. I don't know when Curtis sent his query to USPS customer service.
I still get pkgs in these envelopes where the flap is tightly closed over the box inside (like Bill B does his smaller orders) and I send them out that way myself. Seems that the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. I will continue to ship this way until I'm told no. There are a couple of ladies at my post office that I avoid because they are more interested in impressing us with their (erroneous) knowledge of postal regulations and their window authority. I just let others go ahead of me until a window with a competent clerk opens up.
Do a good turn daily!
Don
Darley
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Originally posted by its_virgil
<br />This has been debated here and on the other boards. The rules don't say I can nor do they say I can't. I've been told that flat rate envelopes must remain flat since they are flat rate nvelopes. I've been told that what ever you can get inside the envelope and still close it will work. The following is directly off of the USPS Website re:Flat Rate Envelopes:
My little though " FLAT RATE " mean a set price deosn't mean a flat envelope, SO all IAP Members I think you have been missinformed at your Poste Office, if those envelope can have a weight of 4 pounds can some one tell me how thick 4 pounds of document be to fit the envelope, Now here some things very interesting, this is the envelope I got with my Smock
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as you can see it's the EP14F but the best part is what is written at the front of the envelope, now be with me the envelope is for domestic use and somehow Eric send it to me, thanks Eric.
Now this is what I receive from Ryan at Woodturningz.
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USPS Box 0-1096 large with my order the boxe as been slide in the envelope EP14F, now if you look at the CN22 Custom from you will see the weight and the little box ticked ( the gift one including eric form )so I may think that depending the little box you tick the price may change, I might be wrong but ask your post office
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