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bitshird

bitshird

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I just listed some carbide scrapers in the classifieds and had a question regarding the carbide chipping and getting in someones eye, does any one here know any one who turns wood without some type of eye protection??
 
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Uh, no, and I have yet to see carbide "chip" while cutting wood. Not sure where this was coming from, but it's not well grounded in possibility, in my opinion, and not well thought out (eye protection). Others obviously have different ones! Then again, it may be someone just starting out and just is unsure. But the first thing I'd bring them up to speed on is EYE PROTECTION!!!

Dale
 
I really hope that there is not anyone on this forum dumb enough to be turning without some kind of eye protection.
 
That was kind of the way I was thinking, There are some real stupid people in this world, and I sure one or more of them may own a wood lathe, Remember the dufus on Utube, even that moron wore safety glasses. Oddly enough the question was asked in the context of my liability. I honestly don't see how a person could chip an insert cutting wood, I've chipped and broken several pounds doing interupted cuts on different metals, I guess I should include a warning that you shouldn't try picking your nose or cleaning your corneas with it either, perhaps we need to put warnings with our pens as well.
 
does any one here know any one who turns wood without some type of eye protection??
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I've chipped and broken several pounds doing interupted cuts on different metals
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Ever hit a bushing or a chuck with a turning tool? And what if said chuck has titanium nitride jaws?

What if someone tried to resharpen or grind the corners off the carbide insert?

An awful lot of 'dumb' people have made millions off of 'smart' people because the 'smart' person made an assumption.
 
I believe that Cav hit the nail right on the head. But, to be overly safe in this day and time I still would have some form of warning concerning "the use of this tool is completely at the risk of the user. No assumptions of any kind are to be made. Manufacturing defects will be replaced or repaired at the description of the manufacturer."

CYA everybody ... Ya just never know about that hot cup of coffee that is lurking out there waiting to attack your unguarded crotch! :eek:
 
I guess I'll engrave a warning on the top of the tool, or make a label warning against modification or hazardous use, I think I'd be more up set running a tool into a chuck, I've seen people fired for things like that, if I engrave the warning on the tool, it will only br to use adequate eye protection. I find it very odd that I've never seen any warnings on any tool holder or carbide insert warning about any thing other than carbide dust being a possible carcinogen, but I only been messing with the stuff a little over 30 years, if the hit a bushing they will tear the heck out of the bushing, and if they hit a chuck a chunk of carbide hitting them would be the least of their problems. I worry about the handle removing my dentures, what happens iy I cut my self while trying to juggle 3 sharp skews, who could I sue, the maker of the skew, the maker of the grinding wheel, the hone, or the manufacturer of the grinder, there should be a warning put on knives to not touch the sharp blade. Misuse through negligence normally falls back to the person whom is the negligent party.
 
Ken, I agree completely with what you say. It is sad that so many in our society look for someone to financially blame for their own stupidity, but it is true, nontheless.
 
I always refer to my McD's coffee cup, Its says "caution contents are HOT" If you have to spell it out that plain, well duh wear PPE's
sorry to rant
 
I know I have been hit in the face by the tooth of a carbide tipped circular saw blade. Same rule applies there about eye protection. it hs made me reconsider the use of carbide tipped blades is some situations though. the blade got overheated and the braze gave out. let several teeth go flying.
I know I made a comment about worrying about chipping the cutter on my skogger. That thought started with a comment about chipping carbide tips by simply dropping a tool. Carbide is harder and more britle than HSS. it is this difference that I don't think the average person is aware of. carbide will not necessarily put up with the banging around that HSS would. I'm not sure how you would put that into a warning though.
I have thought of tool making carrying more of a liability issue than other things. Probaly why most tools are over engineered in the first place. Don't know if you have noticed but lately even hammers have warning labels to wear eye protection and proper use. pretty sad really. and oh yeah keep your finger away from that place between the hammer head and the thing your are trying to hit.
 
bitshird said:
what happens iy I cut my self while trying to juggle 3 sharp skews, who could I sue, the maker of the skew, the maker of the grinding wheel, the hone, or the manufacturer of the grinder, there should be a warning put on knives to not touch the sharp blade. Misuse through negligence normally falls back to the person whom is the negligent party.
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A good lawyer will sue all 4 of them, then agree to make a deal with the grinder the hone and the grinding wheel to drop the claim, if they testify aginst the skew.
 
For anyone who buys pen blanks from me, please take notice of the following:

"The square piece of wood and resin that you have purchased from TurnTex woodworks in intended to be used only as art and may not modified in any way. Any use other than the intended use will be deemed misuse by the user. User assumes all liability for any modification of said material beyond that expressed in this disclaimer. Modify at your own risk."
 
This is getteing out of hand, are we so lame that we can't take responsibility for our own stupidity? If I choose to turn without glasses of some sort, anything that happens to me is my own fault.

Curtis, I think your NEW disclaimer will only cover future sales and those that are smart enough to be able to read it. Maybe you should also post it in brail and have a chip built into the blanks that speak the warning just in case. Don't forget to post it in all languages since this is an international forum.:)

The bottom line is this....Take responsibility for your own actions and stop being such pu*****.
 
Neil
It would be great if the world worked that way. Unfortunately, there are too many people that make their living in the courts at the expense of others. So, make sure that you CYA.
 
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