Editing Posts
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Hippie3180
Member
Same.
egnald
Member
Me toob.
SteveJ
Member
Yeah, but we see them right away....
At least with our pens we are usually only the ones who see the mistakes!
Curly
Member
I believe the reason for the time limits was because some posters would come back after posting something provocative or nasty and then return to edit them into something nicer making those that responded initially look bad. Some people would also return at a later date and remove all their content which messes with the flow of a thread especially when they started threads. I may be wrong and will sit corrected if that is the case. @jeff is the one to confirm or correct me on the reasons. I might have it mixed up with another forum.
jttheclockman
Member
Jeff said he will be making tweaks sometime in the near future to the site, maybe suggest to have a suggestion list and include this to a longer time limit.
rixstix
Member
Maybe, if possible, allow editing until there is a reply to the post. That would prevent changes to the context of the replies. & sometimes forum software sets what can and cannot be done.
I'd like a longer window to edit as well. I like to make sure my posts use correct spelling and the like, and occasionally I find that I've accidentally sliced out a chunk by unknowingly selecting a bit of text then typing. The window is pretty darn short right now.
Regarding the editing-to-make-others-look-bad bit? If you quote what you reply to, that can never happen, so I'm not sure its really a valid reason to keep the edit window super short? I also don't know if I've seen people on these forums that malicious...
But, then again, I don't know everyone...
Regarding the editing-to-make-others-look-bad bit? If you quote what you reply to, that can never happen, so I'm not sure its really a valid reason to keep the edit window super short? I also don't know if I've seen people on these forums that malicious...
But, then again, I don't know everyone...
We had an incident a long while back where someone went in and deleted a virtual tonne of posts...it was chaos. The 'take my football and go home' mentality led to a swiss cheese effect, and the space-time continuum was definitely altered!
Not allowing editing after a certain amount of time promotes accountability, as well. It's not hard to post a follow-up with clarifications...and for anything that needs removing (like having a brain freeze and posting your address), it can be accomplished quickly just by reporting it to us.
Not allowing editing after a certain amount of time promotes accountability, as well. It's not hard to post a follow-up with clarifications...and for anything that needs removing (like having a brain freeze and posting your address), it can be accomplished quickly just by reporting it to us.
leehljp
Member Liaison
I remember that, Andrew!
Good points, I didn't know about the incident.
jttheclockman
Member
yea I remember that chaos too.
100% correct
It's 2 hours forum-wide, except for the for sale forum where it's 3 weeks. That seems adequate to me to allow fixing "whoops" errors.
How long do you think it should be?
leehljp
Member Liaison
Jeff, for me, It is usually 2 or 3 hours before I get back to review and notice errors. I have a mental block that prevents me from seeing errors until after the deadline anyway!
I personally would like to see 4 to 6 hours and would not object to 12 hours, but not more,
I am interested in what others would say.
Curly
Member
I proof read before posting and then before going to another website read the post again for a second read. I'm good with the 2 hours.
WriteON
Member
No limit. No reason not to leave it ongoing. Also the ability to delete a post.
This is a quality forum with quality members. Let everyone manage themselves. Any inappropriate posts/comments can deleted or get moderated by administration.
Curly
Member
WriteON would you say the same if I got my shorts in a knot and decided I was leaving and on the way out I deleted every one of the 4900 plus posts, threads and pictures I ever made? How about if five of the long time members did the same? It shreds a forum and leaves a useless mess that can't be cleaned up. You only have to look at the number of people that get mad when a forum upgrades or changes ownership to see how many quality members can turn. If there is something important to edit beyond a spelling error a "Report" to the mods will get it fixed in no time.
egnald
Member
I find myself having to edit a lot - but I made it a habit to proof read one final time after I hit the submit button. I think a little extra time might be prudent and I really don't have a recommendation, however, I don't think unlimited is a good idea for the very reasons that Andrew and Peter have brought up.
So far I have found it adequate to use the "Report" link and ask a moderator to fix something in one of my posts or to delete an accidental duplicate post. They have always been very understanding and accommodating.
Dave
So far I have found it adequate to use the "Report" link and ask a moderator to fix something in one of my posts or to delete an accidental duplicate post. They have always been very understanding and accommodating.
Dave
WriteON
Member
Curly. I do not care either way. Just casting my vote. Not a big deal to me. Sometimes I reread what I posted and like to correct misspelled or omitted words. And after your reply I'm sorry I posted and would like to edit/delete it
leehljp
Member Liaison
"REPORT": I was unaware of the "Report" to change wording later on.
As some old timer will remember, I was living in Japan for the first 5 years I was on this forum. And I worked mostly in Japanese language contexts, both in writing and speaking. To this day, I still have "Japanese" as the second language on my computer. If I accidentally hit the cap lock, the input changes to Japanese if in English mode, or English if in Japanese mode. And sometimes a combination of a couple of key suddenly deletes a word or two or even sentence. It is annoying!
When proof reading and suddenly changing or correcting a word in a post for submission, the above little gremlins change things that I have already read and moved on from - and I am unaware of that. I submit the "post/reply" thinking I have corrected everything - to realize a few hours later that I have posted several mistakes that I thought had been corrected. Sometimes when hitting the "post reply" button, if I accidentally hit another key with my fat fingers, whole sentences get deleted or changed or reverted to the original mistake.
Francis Xavier was correct: "The Japanese language is the devils tongue" - even on my computer!
As some old timer will remember, I was living in Japan for the first 5 years I was on this forum. And I worked mostly in Japanese language contexts, both in writing and speaking. To this day, I still have "Japanese" as the second language on my computer. If I accidentally hit the cap lock, the input changes to Japanese if in English mode, or English if in Japanese mode. And sometimes a combination of a couple of key suddenly deletes a word or two or even sentence. It is annoying!
When proof reading and suddenly changing or correcting a word in a post for submission, the above little gremlins change things that I have already read and moved on from - and I am unaware of that. I submit the "post/reply" thinking I have corrected everything - to realize a few hours later that I have posted several mistakes that I thought had been corrected. Sometimes when hitting the "post reply" button, if I accidentally hit another key with my fat fingers, whole sentences get deleted or changed or reverted to the original mistake.
Francis Xavier was correct: "The Japanese language is the devils tongue" - even on my computer!
jttheclockman
Member
The gap thing is a problem for sure. This site is constantly changing over in membership so this can leave big gaps in what new members read and wonder why. It is bad enough when many photos are lost because of photo storage places such as Photo Bucket. Many times I try go back to some of the Bash events and lost are the entries and winners and things like this.
Now I know over the years I have gotten into some skirmishes here and people either ignore me or push me or whatever. Those times I wished I could have deleted things said or rephrased them but it got too late so the stood. I am sure there are many examples spread out through the years. I have been here a long time. But many of those times I just apologized and moved on somewhere within that thread hopefully. I guess my point is there is always the possibility to correct or redact things in some manner weather going through moderators or just within the thread rewrite something and where it says reason for editing give reason or just move on. Time wise what is a good time. Maybe 24 hours is a golden number. Just throwing it out there.
Now I know over the years I have gotten into some skirmishes here and people either ignore me or push me or whatever. Those times I wished I could have deleted things said or rephrased them but it got too late so the stood. I am sure there are many examples spread out through the years. I have been here a long time. But many of those times I just apologized and moved on somewhere within that thread hopefully. I guess my point is there is always the possibility to correct or redact things in some manner weather going through moderators or just within the thread rewrite something and where it says reason for editing give reason or just move on. Time wise what is a good time. Maybe 24 hours is a golden number. Just throwing it out there.