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Turned the pump on yesterday to use Curtis's vacuum chamber:laugh:; after about 1 1/2 hours, the pump started to make a lot of noise:eek:, sort of like pistons or valves not happy:mad:. I started with fresh oil, and this is the fourth use, the oil is still at 1/2 level; but, is it time to change the oil already?:confused: What else could it be?? I bought the pump at a pawn shop; but, it looked like it had never been used. It is a JB Eliminator DV-6E.
 
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Are you sure that the oil is not low? Running it low on oil will cause exhaust baffle chatter.

I'd definitely start out changing the oil. (The manual actually suggests that the oil be changed after each use. Of course, our usage is somewhat different than the manufacturer envisioned.)

Here's the manual if you don't have one.
 
(The manual actually suggests that the oil be changed after each use. Of course, our usage is somewhat different than the manufacturer envisioned.)

I think this is wrong info to be giving out.

If you READ the manual you will see the part where it stated this.

After Evacuation,
Oil Contains Rust Forming Water and Corrosive Acids.
Drain Immediately While Pump Is Warm.

Also care to enlighten us how "our usage" exempts us from this listing?

IMPORTANT:
Use oil specifically refined for deep vacuum pumps.
Using oil not refined for deep vacuum pumps and/or operating with contaminated oil will void warranty.
 
Steve, thanks for the fast response. I downloaded the user manual and read it. I ordered 2 quarts online from a company named Climate Doctors, they look legitimate and should be OK. I should have the oil at the end of the week. We are definitely using the vacuum pumps differently than envisioned; but, how or does that matter??

Thanks for the fast response again.
 
(The manual actually suggests that the oil be changed after each use. Of course, our usage is somewhat different than the manufacturer envisioned.)

I think this is wrong info to be giving out.
How is it 'wrong'? Is the information from the manual supposed to be a secret from the owners of the item for some reason?

Are you just trolling again? If so, can you do it to someone else?
 
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We are definitely using the vacuum pumps differently than envisioned; but, how or does that matter??
I dunno.

I imagine that the junk that we drag into the pump is different than the junk that others drag into it. I have no clue whether our junk is worse for the pump than other people's junk.
 
I think that Curtis uses this pump, or did at some point. Perhaps he will pop in to give his experience and how often he changes oil.
 
IF you allowed Cactus Juice to travel up the vacuum tube into the vacuum motor, you could have done real damage. (As it was explained to me, the juice hardens, requiring a complete disassembly). In the few times I have stabilized, I realize it is best to set the vacuum pump a couple feet HIGHER than the chamber. Cactus Juice still enters the tube, but does not travel high enough to reach the pump.

FWIW,
Ed
(experimenting with Vacuum chambers and pumps)
 
I think it's also best to release the vacuum before turning off the pump. That way it won't try to suck the liquid and fumes back into the lines or pump.
 
I think it's also best to release the vacuum before turning off the pump. That way it won't try to suck the liquid and fumes back into the lines or pump.

I'm having trouble visualizing how it could suck the stabilizing goo into the pump. I would think that the bigger danger is sucking the pump oil into vacuum chamber.
 
When you turn the pump on, it "bubbles". In a full chamber, this can travel into the vacuum tube. IF the pump is not physically higher than the chamber, the liquid just "streams into" the pump.

I have not had this problem, (because I saw what could happen and avoided it) but I did talk with the manufacturer---it DOES happen.
 
This type of vacuum pump is made for the HVAC industry. In its intended use, it is used to boil off water and other volatiles from HVAC systems. When that water hits the oil, it condenses and contaminates the oil. Contaminated oil causes you to loose vacuum but does not typically hurt the pump unless you store it with water in the oil. Then it can cause rust.

For stabilizing, you should be using only dry wood so your oil should not get contaminated quickly. I typically change my oil after ever 3 or 4 uses or when I start getting less vacuum than normal. I have done this for 3 or 4 years now with this pump with no issues. As a matter of fact, the head technician at JB Industries (maker of my pump) concurred that in my use, I do not need to change the oil after every use.

If I had to guess, I would say you have a broken exhaust valve in your pump. Don't freak out, it is common and an easy, quick fix. Here is what you need to do:


  1. Drain the oil
  2. set the pump on your work bench with something under it to keep any oil off the bench such as a towel or newspaper
  3. remove the 6 or 7 cap head screws that hold the end cover on. This is the piece that has the sight glass in it.
  4. remove the end cap being careful to not damage the rubber seal
  5. inside you will see a square metal chunk. This is the vacuum cartridge. On top will be a couple of thin metal "flaps". These are your exhaust valves. Check them to see if any are broken. If so, let me know and I can tell you where to get replacements.
 
Also, just fyi, you certainly should be starting and stopping the pump without any vacuum load. In other words, start the pump with the valve open and open the valve before shutting it off.

If you do not release vacuum before shutting off the pump, you will cause excess wear on the pump. Between the electric motor and the actual pump cartridge, there is a flexible coupler. One start up, this flexible coupler experiences torque. If you have not released vacuum, there will be oil trapped in the pump vane housing and it will cause extra torque on the coupler and cause premature wear. It will also spit oil out the exhaust on start up. Releasing vacuum prior to shut down allows the incoming air to clear the vanes.
 
When you turn the pump on, it "bubbles". In a full chamber, this can travel into the vacuum tube. IF the pump is not physically higher than the chamber, the liquid just "streams into" the pump.

I have not had this problem, (because I saw what could happen and avoided it) but I did talk with the manufacturer---it DOES happen.

As you know, I am sure, the valve on top of the chamber is there to control the initial foaming bubbles. Once the bubbles have gotten into the vac hose, it does not matter if the chamber is higher or lower than the pump. Vacuum is going to pull it through. Once the initial bubbling is over, there is nothing that will get sucked into the pump.

My pump is sitting on the floor below my chamber and has been since day one with no issues.
 
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If anyone ever does suck Juice into their pump, don't freak out! Simply stop right away and drain the oil. Then remove your vacuum hose from the chamber, leaving it attached to the pump. Pour some vac pump oil into a cup and start the pump. Insert the hose into the oil and allow the pump to suck the oil through the hose. This will flush out the cartridge. Then drain the oil again and refill with clean oil.

Of course this assumes you are attentive during the first 15-30 minutes while the foaming is going on and see it get sucked up. That is the reason I use clear hose on all of my chambers. It allows you to see if you sucked anything up the hose and how far.

And as Ed mentioned, if you do not stop immediately and drain the oil, you will very likely ruin your pump. The typically running temp of an oil filled vac pump is 180° f. The cure temp range of Cactus Juice is 178°-204° f!
 
(The manual actually suggests that the oil be changed after each use. Of course, our usage is somewhat different than the manufacturer envisioned.)

I think this is wrong info to be giving out.
How is it 'wrong'? Is the information from the manual supposed to be a secret from the owners of the item for some reason?

Are you just trolling again? If so, can you do it to someone else?

It's wrong because you said/indicated we are 'different' and exempt from the policy. That policy was developed for a reason. That reason is not to call people trolls for pointing out failed logic and giving out bad information to the public.

With very little credibility to go on or any data to suggest the 'intended use' is different you induce doubt and speculation on the manufactures part. I for one would certainly love to hear why you think the 'intended use' is different.
 
I think it's also best to release the vacuum before turning off the pump. That way it won't try to suck the liquid and fumes back into the lines or pump.

I'm having trouble visualizing how it could suck the stabilizing goo into the pump. I would think that the bigger danger is sucking the pump oil into vacuum chamber.

One last post, I promise!

Steve is right. If you shut off the pump while still under vac, the Juice will NOT get sucked into the pump just like it does not when the pump is running. However, the lower pressure in the chamber itself will suck the vacuum pump oil out of some pumps and dump it into the chamber. I have had customers who ruined their blanks and their Juice by this happening.

Again, it is important to always release vacuum before shutting off the pump.
 
The stabilizing liquid could easily get sucked into the pump if your tank has too much liquid in them or if the foam when you apply vacuum gets into the tube running to the pump. You must always make sure the stabilizing chamber has enough empty space for the foam to expand into and that you don't have too much liquid in the chamber.
Tim.
 

Wow, thanks for theresponses; I have read them all and the discussion is useful;
but,
I apologize for stirring up asmall forest fire, that was not my intent.

To clarify my technique:
1. I do not start the pumpwith vacuum, I have the valve open and wait until the motor is operating fullybefore I close the valve for vacuum,
2. I do not stop thepump with vacuum, I open the valve and wait for atmospheric pressure to bereached for a few seconds before I turn the motor off,
3. I do not go to fullvacuum (completely closed valve) until the foam bubbles are down; it is amazinghow fast and high the bubbles rise,
4. I dry the blanks first; the ones used todaywere dried overnight at 200 ° a week ago and have been kept in closed plasticcontainer.

I am confusedat how many times to use the pump/oil before changing. Should it be after every use? Or 3 or 4 uses? The oil that I have ordered is JB Gold, fromthe manufacturer of the pump. As soon asit comes in, I will drain and change the oil, refill with new, and tryagain. I will ask for more help if thenoise clattering happens again.
 
(The manual actually suggests that the oil be changed after each use. Of course, our usage is somewhat different than the manufacturer envisioned.)

I think this is wrong info to be giving out.
How is it 'wrong'? Is the information from the manual supposed to be a secret from the owners of the item for some reason?

Are you just trolling again? If so, can you do it to someone else?

It's wrong because you said/indicated we are 'different' and exempt from the policy. That policy was developed for a reason. That reason is not to call people trolls for pointing out failed logic and giving out bad information to the public.

With very little credibility to go on or any data to suggest the 'intended use' is different you induce doubt and speculation on the manufactures part. I for one would certainly love to hear why you think the 'intended use' is different.
Good grief. Did you read Curtis' post (#12).

If you do so, you'll find that my comment was appropriate. Since our use is different than the intended one, the frequency that we need to change the oil is different.

Now please troll someone else, if you don't mind.
 
If you shut off the pump while still under vac, the Juice will NOT get sucked into the pump just like it does not when the pump is running. However, the lower pressure in the chamber itself will suck the vacuum pump oil out of some pumps and dump it into the chamber. I have had customers who ruined their blanks and their Juice by this happening.
We're all friends, so I know you won't tease me TOO much about this, but I am aware of the issue because I did it. I have a mason jar full of oily goo in the shop to remind myself not to be stupid again.
 
Clattering will NOT be caused by low oil in this pump. Have you taken the cover off as suggested in my post above? I would do that while you are draining the oil so you don't waste oil.

I know I can achieve right around 29" vacuum at my elevation with new oil. When I start seeing a drop in vacuum, I change the oil. I also look at my oil through the site glass. If it has gotten discolored, I change the oil. I do not change after every use and my pump is just fine. If I had to guess, I would say I end up changing after every 5 or 6 times but that is just a guess.
 
If you shut off the pump while still under vac, the Juice will NOT get sucked into the pump just like it does not when the pump is running. However, the lower pressure in the chamber itself will suck the vacuum pump oil out of some pumps and dump it into the chamber. I have had customers who ruined their blanks and their Juice by this happening.
We're all friends, so I know you won't tease me TOO much about this, but I am aware of the issue because I did it. I have a mason jar full of oily goo in the shop to remind myself not to be stupid again.

Stuff happens! Most of the better pumps have check valves in the intake to prevent this from happening. However, this is only to keep the oil from being pulled back into an HVAC system in the event of a power failure. They still expect you to start and stop without any load on the system. But, like in your case, live and learn! At least you did not do as bad as one of my customers. He got done with a batch and did not realize the oil had been sucked back into his chamber. He emptied his Juice back into the brand new gallon jug that he had just opened for that run. Then he could not figure out why his Juice would not cure. Called and we went through all kinds of troubleshooting for over an hour on the phone. Finally, somehow it came up about the pump being empty of oil after his first run! I felt bad for him so I sent him a replacement gallon on me!
 
Good grief. Did you read Curtis' post (#12).

If you do so, you'll find that my comment was appropriate. Since our use is different than the intended one, the frequency that we need to change the oil is different.

Now please troll someone else, if you don't mind.


Let me break it down so even the lowest intelligence can understand things. I was doing a reply when Curtis made FIVE (5) post. Honestly I felt that was self-explanatory by just looking at the date stamp of the postings.


To MesquiteMan, on this subject. If the OP called the manufacture on this would they not void his warranty when they heard the whole story? The only way around that would be to lie.
 
I think it's also best to release the vacuum before turning off the pump. That way it won't try to suck the liquid and fumes back into the lines or pump.

I'm having trouble visualizing how it could suck the stabilizing goo into the pump. I would think that the bigger danger is sucking the pump oil into vacuum chamber.

One last post, I promise!

Steve is right. If you shut off the pump while still under vac, the Juice will NOT get sucked into the pump just like it does not when the pump is running. However, the lower pressure in the chamber itself will suck the vacuum pump oil out of some pumps and dump it into the chamber. I have had customers who ruined their blanks and their Juice by this happening.

Again, it is important to always release vacuum before shutting off the pump.

Wow, is this true. Recently had two Juiceproof chambers running, they had been working batches all day, I went and had dinner and planned to shut them off later that evening and let them soak overnight. While at dinner a storm rolls through that knocked out the electricity. So, I'm chewing the last of my food in the dark on the porch watching the lightning fade when it occurs to me, NO ELECTRICITY!!. Ran to the shop with a flashlight and found 3" of oil floating on top of my resin and little bbs floaters all through it.
So, just something else to watch out for.
 
No, I do not believe JB would void the warranty. They are a super company that completely stands behind their stuff. They were even going to cover an issue I thought I had with my first pump of theirs even though it was bought at a pawn shop and was 3 months out of warranty. Ended up being operator error so no warranty needed. Besides, even in HVAC use, not changing the oil after every use will NOT hurt the pump. It just makes it so that it does not pull as good of a vacuum as possible. Remember, the oil in an oil filled rotary vane pump is not there just as a lubricant, that is secondary actually. The primary reason for the oil is to provide a seal where the vanes almost touch inside the pump. If you do not change the oil after every use in HVAC work, you are likely to have rust build up inside the vac cartridge and this could lock up the pump. Even then, I have seen pumps from pawn shops that were very rusty inside when I opened them up. I cleaned it all out and changed the oil and they run just fine. They were not seized up from rust, though.

Remember, the reason they use vacuum on every HVAC system is to boil off water out of the freon lines before introducing freon. As that water boils off, it condenses in the vac pump oil and you get water in your oil. They are made for this. After use, you change the oil to get rid of the water. In our use, if you are following best practices for stabilizing, you will have your wood at 0% moisture and there will not be any water condense in the oil. Cactus Juice does not boil under full vacuum so no issue there either. Basically, if best practices are followed at all times, your oil would never get contaminated and never need changing. Of course that is not realistic, thus the need to change the oil periodically.
 
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Clattering will NOT be caused by low oil in this pump. Have you taken the cover off as suggested in my post above? I would do that while you are draining the oil so you don't waste oil.
I'm certainly no expert on this (or any) vacuum pump. I only mentioned the low oil issue because the manual stated that this would cause noise.
 
No "argument" from me, I have had possibly, all types of problem using these type of wood stabilization vacuum system, may provoke. From overfilling with oil to underfill, chamber too full (no much space to foam), from oil going into the chamber/juice (loss of Power) to juice being sucked into the pump and everything in between, I had a little bit of everything, most happened in the beginning but, not all...!

The oil I have been using for awhile is a redish colour (the same as a weak wine), and after clogging up the pump with some experimental liquids for dying, such as Methylated Spirits (please. do never use this stuff to dilute a dye and try pull full vacuum to colour your wood, bad idea).

Certain liquids when they get mixed, they tend to react in very strange ways, becoming "gouey" is the most typical, cleaning the pump thoroughly, is not a pleasant job...!

My pump starting to make that "rattling" noise, long ago, and there are no broken or loose parts in it, the noise comes and goes, I notice that, the harder the pump is working (chamber very full (16lt capacity) and after it reached its maximum vacuum, sometimes (not always) trying to maintain that full vacuum, the pump starts to rattle.

It does it with fresh oil, oil with water in it, oil with little use and with oil used a lot so, decided to not be concerned of how many times the oil was used but, remove as much water from the oil, before each time I need to start the pump and make sure, I have the oil level between the high and low.

The air here has lots of moisture so, is inevitable that water will form in the oil, most of our type of pumps have a little screw with an O'ring as the "bleeding" point, those are nasty to hold on to when you want to unscrew enough to let the water come out, the screw is just too short and fall down while the pump sump contents keep running out, by the time you find the screw and try to put it back into the hole (never seems to fit...), you lost the water and most if not all the oil, creating a big mess, in the mean time..>!:mad:

I resolved this by getting a threaded rod with the same thread as the screw with a plastic knob to make it easy to handle. The thread rod is about 1", using a 1mm drill bit I drilled a "vent" hole from the centre of the road (the end that screws first into the sump), in an angle (about 60°) to come out about 1/2 from the rod end, this way, when you want to remove the water out of the oil (always after the pump has been untouched for some hours so that the water can settle on the bottom) you simple unscrew the knob until the water starts coming out you still have plenty of threaded rod inside the sump so, it never comes out when you least wanted).

Tilt the pump at 45° from the end where the bleeding knob is and you will see the water coming out clear, and it will continue to do so until all water is out and the oil starts to come out. At this point you screw the knob back into place making sure an good O'ring is there to seal the knob properly. At this point, the oil can show a little lower than normal (always let some oil run out after the water comes out) so, you top up right to the level you had before.

I don't have a specific time or a number of goes before I completely drain the whole oil and replace with new, I do this about twice each year, and I do stabilize a lot. By allowing a bit of oil come out when draining the water, and replacing it with new oil, you are basically, replenishing the older oil and bringing back some of the new oil properties, allowing "things" to keep going, and working normally...!

Making a hole that small in the threaded rod, is not easy however, the greater difficulty, is not to brake the small drill bit, before the hole is through, this is here 95% of times the drill bit will snap so, if you get a few nuts that fit right, in the rod, covering well, the area where you planned the drill bit to exit, you not only wont brake the bit but, you have the nuts to use to mount in a vice to secure the whole thing...!

It works for me, obviously...!:wink::biggrin:

Cheers
George
 
Vacuum pump pictures

Once again, thanks all!!
I have drained the oil and taken the cover off, so that I can change the oil and look at the exhaust valve as Curtis suggested.
I have a bunch of pictures attached.
Picture 1: the oil, not clear at all, it appears to be very cloudy and contaminated. The fist comment I will receive is to ensure the wood is dry. This is only my fourth use, not sure if this enough for that much cloudiness.
Picture 2: this is the splash guard, it has several deposits of ugly brown goo!
Picture 3: this is inside the cover, there is a messy deposit of the ugly brown goo! From the parts diagram, this is a new version of the pump.
Picture 4: this is inside the cover, I have cleaned the goo and there appears to be some corrosion on the metal,
Picture 5: this is the splash guard cleaned, apparently the brown goo is rust/corrosion, there are dried corroded spots left,
Picture 6: This is a view under the splash guard of the exhaust valve that Curtis identified. It appears to be OK.

So my actual immediate conclusion, the vacuum pump was probably very dirty when I purchased it from a pawn shop, at least it ran! So, some more questions:
1. How do I clean the everything? I think that I can clean the splash guard and remove the corrosion. I am scared to clean the inside of the cover.
2. Is the vacuum chamber/cartridge damaged?? How do I clean it? Just run clean oil?
3. Does this mean draining some oil at every use and determining how clean it is?? If the oil is changed at every use then it could become expensive. The capacity seems to be close to a 1/2 or full quart and the JB gold vacuum oil is $14 per quart!!
4. Can I clean or remove water from the oil?? How do I do that??

I should receive 2 quarts of clean, new oil late Friday or Saturday and I can attempt that.
 

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Have no fear, that pump looks fine. Just a little dirty and nothing more. Stop over analyzing it! JB pumps are build like tanks and I have seen the insides MUCH worse than this one and the pump still worked fine and is still plugging along in a friend's shop.

Feel free to scrape off the crud with a razor blade and clean up the OUTSIDE of the cartridge with a scotch brite type pad and wd-40 if you really want to thought it is not necessary. If you are really feeling anal and want to make sure it is clean, after you clean the inside as you see fit, put the cover back on and add just a little oil to the pump. Then pull your hose off the chamber and stick it in a cup of vacuum pump oil. Turn on the pump and allow it to suck oil into the pump. Now drain it again an you have flushed the cartridge.

Again, the pump looks fine so don't sweat it. This will keep running in MUCH worse condition!

BTW, DO NOT open or mess with the cartridge at all. You can clean the outside but opening it will risk getting things out of alignment.
 
Steve brings up a good point. You would do best to use vacuum pump oil but it does not necessarily need to be JB. You might also want to call around to some of the local HVAC supply houses in your area. I buy a gallon of JB Gold pump oil form a local HVAC wholesale company for $28 gallon. At least that is what it was the last time I got some.
 
I really appreciate the comments, advice, and support.

But, a few more questions;

1. George and Curtis, can the oil be cleaned on this pump?? Is the cloudy contamination water? Can that be removed somehow??

2. What about the noise; both, my wife and I thought the pump was going to come apart. Will it settle down and stop during use? Or, do I just accept it??
 
I really appreciate the comments, advice, and support.

But, a few more questions;

1. George and Curtis, can the oil be cleaned on this pump?? Is the cloudy contamination water? Can that be removed somehow??

2. What about the noise; both, my wife and I thought the pump was going to come apart. Will it settle down and stop during use? Or, do I just accept it??

Well, you can filter the oil using the normal coffee filters, slow but works. Unless the oil is fairly new, I wouldn't bother, I was a little annoyed when I found out the average cost of a gallon of vacuum pump oil, (about $100) but I didn't accept that so a searched a little more and I found vacuum pump oil for under $25 per gallon, that I can accept and will last you a long time...!

I wouldn't be worried about the noise...! I don't, anymore...!

When I open my pump sump, mine wasn't much different than yours (look bellow), a good scrub and was all clean again. Following my advice on bleeding the oils before every use, will stop all that "gunk" to accumulate on the sump and be continually mixing with the oil, the process of bleeding is very easy and effective with that made screw and the knob, it works wonders.

Cheers
George
 

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I really appreciate the comments, advice, and support.

But, a few more questions;

1. George and Curtis, can the oil be cleaned on this pump?? Is the cloudy contamination water? Can that be removed somehow??

2. What about the noise; both, my wife and I thought the pump was going to come apart. Will it settle down and stop during use? Or, do I just accept it??

Just a question on your noise. My pumps have a cooling fan could you have a broken fan or maybe the noise is in the motor or a bearing?
 
My new oil came in today; but, I am out of commission now for a few days due to minor surgery tomorrow. Will follow up next week.
So,
1. The pump schematic does not show a fan, so I will accept the noise.
2. But, I still do not understand how water can be removed from the oil so that I can re-use the oil.
 
Vacuum pump spitting oil

I cleaned the pump of corrosive crud, reassembled, and added new oil.
The new vacuum pump oil is the clearest, most pure looking oil that I have ever seen!!

But, after I turned the pump on, to test the seal and make sure there are no leaks, the pump started to spit (expel) oil out of the exhaust port opening. This was not happening with the old oil. Will this go away? I have the oil to the mid-level on the sight window. Did I put in too much? Not enough?

As a side note, the sound is great, essentially gone.
 
I cleaned the pump of corrosive crud, reassembled, and added new oil.
e new vacuum pump oil is the clearest, most pure looking oil that I have ever seen!!

But, after I turned the pump on, to test the seal and make sure there are no leaks, the pump started to spit (expel) oil out of the exhaust port opening. This was not happening with the old oil. Will this go away? I have the oil to the mid-level on the sight window. Did I put in too much? Not enough?

As a side note, the sound is great, essentially gone.


Mine does that, I put a 12" piece of vinyl hose on the port with a house clamp, with that length of hose it doesn't make it out.
 
My new oil came in today; but, I am out of commission now for a few days due to minor surgery tomorrow. Will follow up next week.
So,
1. The pump schematic does not show a fan, so I will accept the noise.
2. But, I still do not understand how water can be removed from the oil so that I can re-use the oil.

First of all, never mix oils, you will regret it...!

To remove water from the oil, there many ways to do it but, the way I did it was to pour the old oil into a coke plastic bottle and let it see overnight, what you get is what I show on the pic above, where you see the water on the bottom.

Very gently (not to stir the oil and water), drill a small hole (3 to 5 mm) on the bottle bottom (side bulged plastic) and let the water run out, be ready to put your finger in the hole and turn the bottle upside down (if the cap is on). From there you pour the oil into a couple of paper coffee filters, already installed in a glass jar, as the above pic, also and the oils comes out fairly clean but, and unless you got the exact same oil to top up, disregard it...!

Cheers
George
 
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I cleaned the pump of corrosive crud, reassembled, and added new oil.
The new vacuum pump oil is the clearest, most pure looking oil that I have ever seen!!

But, after I turned the pump on, to test the seal and make sure there are no leaks, the pump started to spit (expel) oil out of the exhaust port opening. This was not happening with the old oil. Will this go away? I have the oil to the mid-level on the sight window. Did I put in too much? Not enough?

As a side note, the sound is great, essentially gone.

All these type of pumps expel an oily mist, at certain stages of the process, it is possible that the old oil became to thick to create mist, the new oil as any proper vacuum pump oils, are very thin (viscosity) and they mist easily so, the way I found to resolve that problem was to use and empty 8oz bottle of thin CA and a normal paper towel. How, and where to cut the CA empty bottle and what to do with the paper towel is all explained in here...! Starts at page 6 through page 9 post #93 with the answers...!

Cheers
George
 
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