ARRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH (Pet peave rant)

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It drives me absolutely up the stinking wall. Makes me FURIOUS. I get SOOOOOOOOOOOO aggravated I could chew nails and spit razor wire.

I HATE it when someone goes on a thread and posts a reply without reading the whole thread or at least the post they are replying to first.

I have noticed that this tends to happen more on the technical threads than in other places. Someone has a problem, so they post it up, asking for help. Then the discussion starts... People go back and forth thinking of what is a good solution to the problem. The conversation is going excellent, with alot of awesome ideas flying around, solutions for future problems, and everything is wonderful....

About that time someone will post up and take the thread totally in reverse. They will add a comment that has already been made, or a question that has already been answered in said thread. This usually would be no big deal, but on here, it usually ends up being a thread killer.

So I ask this of my fellow IAP members. If you want to add a comment to a technical thread, about some sort of technical situation, PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE THREAD FIRST. Some of the technical threads can get into some serious numbers, as far as post count goes, and it makes it tougher on everyone to have to read through the thread when you read the same comment 2 or more times from different people. Not to mention, It gives a bad impression of you when you don't know exactly what the conversation is about before you comment.
 
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Ron,

For those of us who spend our entire day on the site, this is reasonable. HOWEVER, consider the folks who HAVE A LIFE!!!

Based on your theory, if they see a thread that has, say 20 answers, they will just pass it by figuring SOMEONE has already said what they would contribute.

MEANWHILE, the Original Poster may be interested in what, oh, say Russ Fairfield has to say, EVEN IF Joe Blow has said the same thing, earlier.

So, get used to repetition. When a poster asks for opinions, (s)he usually will want to see how often the SAME opinion comes up and FROM WHOM. This may have a great bearing on the solution the OP chooses to try (first).

As to technical threads. Your point would be sound if every detail of every technical question was covered in the original post. USUALLY, this is NOT the case. The only way to diagnose a problem is to have ALL the pertinent facts. Which, in most cases, means asking more questions.

So, read what you wish---but allow all to post what THEY wish, whether they read all the previous posts, or not. :eek::eek:

Encourage ALL contributions---not just the ones YOU and I think are inspired, i.e. OURS!!!:biggrin::biggrin:
 
nicely said ED. :) I give credit to the people who do take the time to answer even if it was said before. I have been on sites where questions gets umpteen views but noone takes the time to answer. I know there are those here that do not like alot of my responses and I have gotten enough emails to that but at least I do try to contribute something because of all we do take away from here is or has value. There are times a question gets asked a couple times within a thread and gets answered slightly different each time and someone walks away with a little bit more info. Remember many are reading but not as many responding. Gee I hope I do not get emails on this too.:rolleyes:
 
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You know, you should ask people to please read the entire thread first! Start a post or something!








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(And I'm guilty of doing that. Sometimes I will skim through the posts to see if what I wanted to say was said, and miss that someone said the same thing using different words. If you see that, just reply in the thread, "Yeah, so-and-so already said that you doofus!")
 
I like the way threads twist and turn. Many times an original post really doesn't cover the whole idea or problem and only when someone pops up with what appears to be "off topic" comments, does the real information start coming out and solutions pouring in.

If you want to rant about something, rant about those members who have nothing to say but copying a post and adding ... "1+" Now THAT is a waste of space! :)
 
Texatdurango said:
I like the way threads twist and turn. Many times an original post really doesn't cover the whole idea or problem and only when someone pops up with what appears to be "off topic" comments, does the real information start coming out and solutions pouring in.

If you want to rant about something, rant about those members who have nothing to say but copying a post and adding ... "1+" Now THAT is a waste of space! :)
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Do these things really bother you guys that much? Why? A few bytes of space in the database are no big deal. Is it too hard to scroll by?

I'm just curious because these things don't bother me at all, I'm really not trying to start something. I just don't get it. Kind of how my wife says she hates Facebook, but is CONSTANTLY posting crap there. I just don't get it.
 
To your point, George:

I recall recently responding to a "Why can't I turn plastic". After numerous entries, SOMEONE deduced he was using a metal lathe.

Nothing wrong with that, but it would have been useful information in the original description of the problem!!!

Details!!!!!
 
DurocShark said:
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Do these things really bother you guys that much? Why? A few bytes of space in the database are no big deal. Is it too hard to scroll by?

I'm just curious because these things don't bother me at all, I'm really not trying to start something. I just don't get it. Kind of how my wife says she hates Facebook, but is CONSTANTLY posting crap there. I just don't get it.
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I just knew that was coming! :biggrin:

Actually things like that don't bother me, hince the smilie. I guess about the only thing that annoys me are the annimated icons that distract me from reading the content of the posts. But.... there is only one that I know of so it's not a big deal. :eek::tongue:
 
Texatdurango said:
I just knew that was coming! :biggrin:

Actually things like that don't bother me, hince the smilie. I guess about the only thing that annoys me are the annimated icons that distract me from reading the content of the posts. But.... there is only one that I know of so it's not a big deal. :eek::tongue:
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Do you recall which one it was???:eek::biggrin::biggrin:
 
ed4copies said:
To your point, George:

I recall recently responding to a "Why can't I turn plastic". After numerous entries, SOMEONE deduced he was using a metal lathe.

Nothing wrong with that, but it would have been useful information in the original description of the problem!!!

Details!!!!!
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Exactly, Actually there is a thread going on right now that I think a few key elements were left out at the beginning and only after a dozen or two posts are some issues surfacing.

7.3 times out of 10, when someone posts about a problem they look at EVERYTHING but themselves as being the culprit. That's why I like people like jttheclockman who aren't afraid to step up and say... "it's probably just operator error"!

Do you think if a grown horse is 1 HP that those little mimiature jobss are probably 1/2 or even 1/3 HP?
 
OK,
Yes, I was a talented horse trainer in my youth, so here is the DEFINITIVE answer.

They are ONE PONY power, if they are 14 hands.
From there, each hand reduced, reduces by 10% of a pony power.

All-in-all they are only good for pulling small-wheeled vehicles.

So George,

GET OFF THEIR BACKS!!!!​
 
ed4copies said:
OK,
Yes, I was a talented horse trainer in my youth, so here is the DEFINITIVE answer.

They are ONE PONY power, if they are 14 hands.
From there, each hand reduced, reduces by 10% of a pony power.

All-in-all they are only good for pulling small-wheeled vehicles.

So George,


GET OFF THEIR BACKS!!!!​
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14 hands..... WOW, I'd like to see those suckers gallop, I bet they could throw up some dust!

Around here, most only have 4 hands (or hooves) so I guess they would be way under powered.
 
Hey TEXANS!!!!!

TEXatDurango
don't know how to
measure
a HORSE!!!

Sorry, you'll be out of Texas soon!!


(edited, thanks!!!)
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I don't want to pee in the pool, but I mostly agree with Ron. I understand that in technical threads there will be rabbit trails and some even necessary. I have also read threads where someone makes a dramatic point and poses a question and 4 posts later the same point is made and the same question is asked when the question was also answered a few posts previous. I don't mind the 1+ answer, it is good to see how many people do things what way. The answer I don't like is "Check the library" and no link is posted. I once saw that answer and I still couldn't find anything. My personal rule is if I'm going to post I read all threads so I can respond intelligently. Also the only thing I know about horses is that the leather makes nice dress gloves.
 
If I read Ron's post correctly, he is not just ranting about folks answering the question many times but also about people giving info to an unrelated question becasue they did not read the post. Case in point...In a recent thread, Landfill lumber was asking about cracks in URETHANE resin. All of the answers so far are about POLYESTER resin, not urethane resin. There is a huge difference between the 2. Giving an answer relating to PR is not an answer to the original question. No harm, though, as long as the original poster realizes that the answers they are given may not be applicable to the question.
 
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MesquiteMan said:
If I read Ron's post correctly, he is not ranting about folks answering the question many times but rather people giving info to an unrelated question becasue they did not read the post. Case in point...In a recent thread, Landfill lumber was asking about cracks in URETHANE resin. All of the answers so far are about POLYESTER resin, not urethane resin. There is a huge difference between the 2. Giving an answer relating to PR is not an answer to the original question. No harm, though, as long as the original poster realizes that the answers they are given may not be applicable to the question.
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The first answer to his question, premised IF this is the same as the "casting resin" we use.....

This was never affirmed or contradicted, so the opportunity was there, no clarification was deemed appropriate or necessary by the OP.
 
Wow... This is a funny thread...

I am going to post several times quoting each post i want to reply to...


And YES, George, I am bolstering the crap outta my post count!! WOOHOO!
 
ed4copies said:
Ron,

For those of us who spend our entire day on the site, this is reasonable. HOWEVER, consider the folks who HAVE A LIFE!!!

Based on your theory, if they see a thread that has, say 20 answers, they will just pass it by figuring SOMEONE has already said what they would contribute.

MEANWHILE, the Original Poster may be interested in what, oh, say Russ Fairfield has to say, EVEN IF Joe Blow has said the same thing, earlier.

So, get used to repetition. When a poster asks for opinions, (s)he usually will want to see how often the SAME opinion comes up and FROM WHOM. This may have a great bearing on the solution the OP chooses to try (first).

As to technical threads. Your point would be sound if every detail of every technical question was covered in the original post. USUALLY, this is NOT the case. The only way to diagnose a problem is to have ALL the pertinent facts. Which, in most cases, means asking more questions.

So, read what you wish---but allow all to post what THEY wish, whether they read all the previous posts, or not. :eek::eek:

Encourage ALL contributions---not just the ones YOU and I think are inspired, i.e. OURS!!!:biggrin::biggrin:
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It's not the clarifying of details that bothers me, In fact that is a vital part of the troubleshooting process. Let me give you a hypathetical situation...

I come on the boards and post a question like "How should i drill this blank?". In the body of the thread i mention that i am simply trying to find the most accurate way to drill an expensive blank so as to have the best shot at good results. Butch follows my post with a detailed answer of how to do it (drill on the lathe he suggests), and why to do it that way. Then several other people post either confirming, or giving alternatives. THEN some goob comes on and says. "Drill on the lathe".

Or another classic is this: same question, same posts up to Mr. Goob, who then replies "Most penturners use drill bits. Not sure what system you were using before, but i like bits."

Or Mr. Goob might say: "The best way to get the hole in the blank is to drill it"




Now if these were jokes, then cool..... hahahaha, sweet answer... Now tell me how to fix my situation for real, Or at least mention that you are joking around and you dont know. Otherwise we are left to read the dumb answer and wonder...

I am down to read that a bunch of people use the same technique. I agree that this information can be helpful. But to key up on a thread, and simply waste bandwidth, especially on a serious technical thread, is silly.

I am just saying that if you want to give a good answer, that could actually be helpful, you should be aware of as much of the situation as possible.
 
jttheclockman said:
nicely said ED. :) I give credit to the people who do take the time to answer even if it was said before. I have been on sites where questions gets umpteen views but noone takes the time to answer. I know there are those here that do not like alot of my responses and I have gotten enough emails to that but at least I do try to contribute something because of all we do take away from here is or has value. There are times a question gets asked a couple times within a thread and gets answered slightly different each time and someone walks away with a little bit more info. Remember many are reading but not as many responding. Gee I hope I do not get emails on this too.:rolleyes:
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Texatdurango said:
I like the way threads twist and turn. Many times an original post really doesn't cover the whole idea or problem and only when someone pops up with what appears to be "off topic" comments, does the real information start coming out and solutions pouring in.

If you want to rant about something, rant about those members who have nothing to say but copying a post and adding ... "1+" Now THAT is a waste of space! :)
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I disagree. The +1 posts tell you that more than one person use the same technique. Much better than asking "Will the 100 pound pony hold my 250 pound body off the ground?" in the middle of a thread about rants of stupid posts!
 
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