Oscar Tie-Dye
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I like that pen very much !!! . Is it a Ballpoint ? . Seems to be by the look of the refill tip in Picture #6.
Thanks for bringing the Oscar pen kit to our attention. . It is a nicely styled kit.
I see on the website a statement that it uses the same bushings as the Jr Gent II. . That's a good thing if it's correct .... see my "worried" comment.
But I don't see instructions on the Turners Warehouse website .
Is that any problem for turning and assembly ?
Something worries me about the stated compatibility with the Jr Gent II bushings.
Which bushings ?
As I understand, the Jr Gent II Rollerball bushings are not the same as the Jr Gent II Ballpoint bushings.
So any potential buyer of the Oscar would have to be careful about which bushings to use.
Maybe , @qquake , you can shed some light on this issue, please.
Thanks for bringing the Oscar pen kit to our attention. . It is a nicely styled kit.
I see on the website a statement that it uses the same bushings as the Jr Gent II. . That's a good thing if it's correct .... see my "worried" comment.
But I don't see instructions on the Turners Warehouse website .
Is that any problem for turning and assembly ?
Something worries me about the stated compatibility with the Jr Gent II bushings.
Which bushings ?
As I understand, the Jr Gent II Rollerball bushings are not the same as the Jr Gent II Ballpoint bushings.
So any potential buyer of the Oscar would have to be careful about which bushings to use.
Maybe , @qquake , you can shed some light on this issue, please.
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jttheclockman
Member
Mal from Turners Warehouse:
JR Series Pen Kit Bushings
Fits kits made on the Jr Gent II platform, known kits are, Jr George, Jr Aaron, Panda, Jr Retro, Oscar Ballpoint Kit, Jr Independence, Jr Duke, Jr Lincoln, Jr Hamilton and more..
instructions:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1284/5707/files/jr_gentlemens_pen_7d889912-ea24-4f2c-aa9f-4a14ac0dc3f0.pdf?
6797884653171261626
Mal from Exotics
https://www.exoticblanks.com/bushings-jr-series.html
I say this all the time, if you are buying a new kit buy the bushings is a good idea. . Do not rely on list of kits.
JR Series Pen Kit Bushings
Fits kits made on the Jr Gent II platform, known kits are, Jr George, Jr Aaron, Panda, Jr Retro, Oscar Ballpoint Kit, Jr Independence, Jr Duke, Jr Lincoln, Jr Hamilton and more..
instructions:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1284/5707/files/jr_gentlemens_pen_7d889912-ea24-4f2c-aa9f-4a14ac0dc3f0.pdf?
6797884653171261626
Mal from Exotics
https://www.exoticblanks.com/bushings-jr-series.html
I say this all the time, if you are buying a new kit buy the bushings is a good idea. . Do not rely on list of kits.
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@jttheclockman
Thanks for your interest in my "worries", John.
However, my concern is the difference between the bushings for the Jr Gent II Ballpoint compared to the Jr Gent II Rollerball/Fountain.
As far as I have been able to tell from listings on various vendor websites, the Jr G II Ballpoint and Jr G II Rollerball bushings are different.
However, in the listing on the T.W. website ... for the OSCAR they claim bushing compatibility with the Jr Gent II but don't say BP or RB.
So do you see the source of confusion ? .
The information is not complete. . Maybe I should buy bushings, but maybe my existing bushings for Jr Gent II RB are the right ones for the Oscar BP.
The T.W. website does not say whether the Jr Gent II RB or the Jr Gent II BP are the right bushings for the OSCAR.
I am hoping that @qquake will clarify about the bushings by telling what bushings he used for the Oscar ( a BP I think ) that he made in this thread.
Thanks for your interest in my "worries", John.
However, my concern is the difference between the bushings for the Jr Gent II Ballpoint compared to the Jr Gent II Rollerball/Fountain.
As far as I have been able to tell from listings on various vendor websites, the Jr G II Ballpoint and Jr G II Rollerball bushings are different.
However, in the listing on the T.W. website ... for the OSCAR they claim bushing compatibility with the Jr Gent II but don't say BP or RB.
So do you see the source of confusion ? .
The information is not complete. . Maybe I should buy bushings, but maybe my existing bushings for Jr Gent II RB are the right ones for the Oscar BP.
The T.W. website does not say whether the Jr Gent II RB or the Jr Gent II BP are the right bushings for the OSCAR.
I am hoping that @qquake will clarify about the bushings by telling what bushings he used for the Oscar ( a BP I think ) that he made in this thread.
@jttheclockman
JohnT - from ExoticBlanks - I have previous experience with the Jr G II BP and the Jr G II RB and the Jr G II FP - there are differences in bushings
I do not know which bushings suit the OSCAR. . The claim on the T.W. website that the Jr Gent II bushings work is not complete info.
Here is what the ExoticBlanks website says :-
Jr. Gentleman's (Jr Gent II) Pen Kits.
The popular Jr. Gentleman's Rollerball features well-balanced and classic styling. We carry it in ballpoint, rollerball and fountain versions.
copied from : https://www.exoticblanks.com/jr-gentlemans-Pen-Kits/
JohnT - from ExoticBlanks - I have previous experience with the Jr G II BP and the Jr G II RB and the Jr G II FP - there are differences in bushings
I do not know which bushings suit the OSCAR. . The claim on the T.W. website that the Jr Gent II bushings work is not complete info.
Here is what the ExoticBlanks website says :-
Jr. Gentleman's (Jr Gent II) Pen Kits
Jr. Gentleman's (Jr Gent II) Pen Kits.
The popular Jr. Gentleman's Rollerball features well-balanced and classic styling. We carry it in ballpoint, rollerball and fountain versions.
copied from : https://www.exoticblanks.com/jr-gentlemans-Pen-Kits/
qquake
Member
The Oscars are the only "Jr" pens I've ever turned. I ordered the bushings from Turners Warehouse at the same time as the kits. I remember I was confused by the bushings, so I made a cheat sheet and labels for each of the four bushings. I always make a "registration" mark on the blank for two body pens, so I know which end is which. I always position blanks on the lathe so the wider end is to the left. Does this help?
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jttheclockman
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Mal, why don't you ask Ed, carries both styles or if you are serious about getting this kit just buy a set of bushings if you use them but from what I understand you do do not even use bushings so what are you worried about. As you see Mal this is not a capped pen so it is a ballpoint. Maybe if you want to expand your thoughts you can go to the charts and look up both JR Gent II rollerball and ballpoint and give us the tube sizes and the bushing measurements. I also believe Timberbits had a different Jr Gent kit also so maybe include that one.
https://www.turnerswarehouse.com/products/copy-of-oscar-ballpoint-pen-kit-dayacom-kit
https://www.turnerswarehouse.com/products/copy-of-oscar-ballpoint-pen-kit-dayacom-kit
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jttheclockman
Member
I am I am trying to help you.Come on, John !!! . . TRY TO BE HELPFUL, FOR A CHANGE !!!!!
qquake
Member
Yes, it's a ballpoint.
@qquake
Thanks for your reply. . I apologize for pushing that point. . I failed to read the kit title on the Turners Warehouse listing specifying "Ballpoint".
It now seems from the pictures that you show that the bushings for the Oscar are NOT the same as the Jr Gent II bushings.
For the probably obvious reason, I have continued this discussion with you in a Private Conversation.
Thanks again, Jim.
Thanks for your reply. . I apologize for pushing that point. . I failed to read the kit title on the Turners Warehouse listing specifying "Ballpoint".
It now seems from the pictures that you show that the bushings for the Oscar are NOT the same as the Jr Gent II bushings.
For the probably obvious reason, I have continued this discussion with you in a Private Conversation.
Thanks again, Jim.
Sand Mountain Designs
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Great looking pen - kit and blank look amazing!
Was this your first time turning inlace acrylester? Thoughts of it versus other types of blanks?
qquake
Member
No, I've turned a fair amount of it over the years. When I was still using HSS chisels, I hated turning it. Avoided it like the plague. But since I've been using a carbide chisel with a "shearing" cut, I've had much better success.